Great idea, except the soil within the foundation was fill consisting of about half soil and half asphalt, small blackened pebbles suggesting they had been included in asphalt or oiled gravel, faunal remains, and a lot of nails. There were very few ceramics and glass, and what was recovered consists of very small fragments suggesting crushing. It’s difficult to say if the fill came from the lot that the stable was on or an adjacent lot. All the structures on the 5 lots being investigated have been demolished since 1998. It’s possible that some soil just above or within the drain would have been in situ.
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> On Jun 4, 2021, at 9:32 PM, [log in to unmask] wrote:
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> Have you considered soil chemical analysis for phosphates and nitrates?
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> Silas Hurry
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>> On 06/04/2021 8:35 PM Misty Jackson <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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>> Dear HISTARCH-ers,
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>> I recently uncovered a foundation along an alley at 269 Winder, Detroit that the Sanborns indicate was the location of a stable, later turned garage. The area of Detroit in which it is located was platted in the 1853 and 1862, and according to a Detroit architectural historian with whom I work, the area was one to which at least middle and possibly higher classes moved from out of old Detroit at the time. The foundation measures 11ft by 8ft and is constructed of brick for the foundation/footings and brick and sandstone flooring. The floor slopes from four directions down toward what appears to be a drain, though its base is also constructed of brick. Here is a link to a photo for those interested (you may have to paste it in your browser):
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>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/mmjackson/51226470050/in/dateposted-public/ <https://www.flickr.com/photos/mmjackson/51226470050/in/dateposted-public/> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/mmjackson/51226470050/in/dateposted-public/ <https://www.flickr.com/photos/mmjackson/51226470050/in/dateposted-public/>>
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>> I’ve showed this to other Detroit archaeologists, who have not come across anything similar. The manager of the Michigan State University Horse Teaching farm with whom I spoke recently is not familiar with 19th c. stables but said that a wood floor in stables is the norm with sometimes a drain at the rear of the stall for urine. The location of the drain at 269 Winder is near a side rather than where it seems the rear would have been, but for now the best interpretation appears to be a stable floor with a drain that would have laid under a (wood) stall floor.
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>> If anyone has seen anything similar in their work or in a publication, or has a better idea of what this might have functioned as, please let me know.
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>> Thanks.
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>> Misty
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