>So it won't necessarily answer the wax moth question to just stick some
wax moth larvae in a dish and cool them slowly.  They may need to be on
their own "turf".

I agree wholeheartedly!  Just as with pesticide testing, lab results on
isolated bees may not necessarily extrapolate to bees on their "own turf."

The data that Pete submitted on wax moth susceptibility to freezing appears
to be contradicted by Tim's and Allen's observations.  I also would like to
see field data from temperature probes inserted into clusters of wax moth
during the winter (probes inserted previously) to confirm the actual
temperatures of the moth larvae in their cocoons, and then a confirmation
that they were viable after being thawed.  Such observations should then be
published so as to set the record straight.

-- 
Randy Oliver
Grass Valley, CA
www.ScientificBeekeeping.com

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