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Very well-thought out reply by George and very polite.  I might suggest that the proposed colorimeter project would be akin to classifying snowflakes...virtually no way possible to control the inherent variability and as George underscores, it is decoration, not wear type that is of greatest value to archaeological interpretation.



-----Original Message-----
From: Nancy S. Dickinson <[log in to unmask]>
To: HISTARCH <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2012 12:37 pm
Subject: Re: Colorimeters and Spectrophotometers on Ceramics


George,
Hazzah!  I hope you put this in a CNEHA journal, at  least.  It should be a 
tear-out page in a SHA publication.  I'm  trying to think of a title for 
it, although your pigment of our imagination  works so well.  For Pete's sake 
and for repeat's sake....
 
Maybe something about bringing a dead horse to water OR OR  OR
Nancy
 
 
In a message dated 2/22/2012 10:45:54 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
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Colleagues,



Pearlware has become a pigment of our  imagination!!!  I have been beating
on this horse since 1980 and not  making much progress.  We have made
pearlware into something much more  important than it was to the potters and
merchants dealing with these  wares.  Wedgwood’s term “Pearl White” has
morphed into pearlware, a  term that the Staffordshire potters and importers
almost completely  ignored.  There were at least six different formulas for
“pearl body”  in the Wedgwood records from 1815 to 1846 (Miller 1980:17).



The  use of the term “pearl” as part of maker’s marks occurs from at least
13  potters, all of which date from between 1834 and 1893  (Miller
1980:19).  Pearl
white was Josiah Wedgwood’s term for these  blue tinted wares, but the other
potters referred to the ware as “China  Glaze” and it appears that their 
use
of that term predates Wedgwood’s Pearl  White.  There are a number of
advertisements and invoices that  describe wares as China Glaze in the 1780s
into the first two decades of  the 19th century, but the listing of
“pearlware” is very rare (Miller  1987:91-92).  The term pearlware does not
show up in probate  inventories.  Pearlware does not replace creamware;
decoration  replaces creamware.  None of the Staffordshire potters’ price
fixing  lists from 1783, 1787, 1795, 1796, 1808, 1814, 1825, 1845, 1853 and
1859  list pearlware or China glaze.  The wares are listed by  their
decorative types, i.e. CC, edged, painted, dipt, or printed  (Miller
1987:90).  CC in the early period was for cream colour, while  later it is
much whiter and signifies undecorated wares.  The 1784  edition of *Bailey’s
Directory of the Potteries of Staffordshire* lists ten  potters that
describe themselves as producers of China Glaze and Cream  Colour ware
(Miller and Hunter 2001:148).  Pearlware is not listed  after any of the
potters’ listings of what they  produced.



The takeoff period for these blue painted and tinted  wares appears to be
after Roger Kinnaston set up a furnace in 1772 for the  refining of cobalt
in Cobridge, Staffordshire (Miller and Hunter  2001:143).  These early blue
painted China Glaze wares are almost  always painted in Chinese style
patterns and the blue tint is very  obviously an attempt to imitate Chinese
porcelain.  Later the bluing  added to the glaze was limited to the amount
to make the ware look whiter  and one must look for the tint of blue in
areas where the glaze is thicker  such as around footrings.  Thus, the
intent of the potter in the use  of cobalt in the glaze evolved over time
(Miller 1993:4-6).  Any  attempt to set a fixed definition of pearlware will
produce a product that  is locked in time and not reflective of the
evolution of the use of cobalt  to affect the glaze tint from a visible blue
to a white ware, much as  bluing is used to make laundry white.



Dating pearlwares by ware  type is much less useful that by decorative
styles such as the rococo shell  edge versus even scalloped shell edge,
Chinoiserie China Glaze wares or  polychrome floral painted provides much
better dates.  Undecorated  pearlware sherds almost all come from decorated
wares such as the centers  of shell edged plates or to painted teawares.  In
short, ware types  are of minimal use for dating contexts.



Creamware, like what archaeologists are calling  pearlware, also
went through an evolution from a rather dark cream in the  mid-18th century
into a rather whiteware by the 1820s.  Where it stops  being creamware and
becomes CC ware or a white ware is an arbitrary  decision that may not be
very meaningful.  Bill Liebeknecht makes a  very telling point when he
described yellowware sherds from the Coxon  Pottery waster dump in Trenton,
New Jersey.  The differences in the  yellow color caused those who are
familiar with these wares to classify  some as being from New Jersey and
some being from Ohio.  Bill also  makes a point that CC wares were being
produced in Trenton well into the  19th century for such wares as chamber
pots.  Using 101 importers’  invoices dating from 1806 to 1886 it was
possible to show that CC tea wares  stopped being sold much earlier than CC
ware plates and that CC ware bowls  continued to be available through the
whole period of 1806 to 1886 (Miller  and Earls 2001:84-87).  No doubt the
CC wares listed in the later  invoices would be classified as whitewares  by
archaeologists.



Like I said, I have been beating this  horse since 1980.  But keep beating,
it is still  dead.



References:



Liebeknecht, Bill

2012  HISTARCH posting February 20th.



George L.  Miller

1980            Classification and  Economic Scaling of 19th Century
Ceramics.  *Historical Archaeology*  Vol. 14:1-40.  See appendix A
“Pearlware in the 19th Century” pages  15-19.



1987    Origins of Josiah Wedgwood’s  “Pearlware.”  *Northeast Historical
Archaeology* Vol  16:83-95.



1993    A User’s Guide to Ceramic  Assemblages Part Four: Some Thoughts on
Classification of White  Earthenwares.  *Council for Northeast Historical
Archaeology  Newsletter* November 1993, Number 26: 4-7.  Available for  free
download on the CNEHA website.



George L. Miller and Amy  C. Earls

2008    War and Pots: The Impact of Economics and  Politics on Ceramic
Consumption Patterns.  *Ceramics in America 2008*:  67-108.



George L. Miller and Robert Hunter

2001   How Creamware got the Blues: The Origins of China Glaze  and
Pearlware.  *Ceramics in America 2001* pages 135-161.  Can be  downloaded
from
http://www.chipstone.org/publications/CIA/2001/MillerHunter/MillHuntIndes.ht
ml


On  Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 3:47 PM, scarlett <[log in to unmask]>  wrote:

> Dear Chris,
>
> The list has provided you with  some excellent advice.  i am skeptical 
that
> this will be very  interesting in the long run, but that is exactly what
> makes it  interesting to do now! I wrote an entire MS thesis after a
> professor  (like me) told me (as a student like you) that some technical
> study of  historic ceramic wouldn't work.  It worked fine and was
>  interesting.  He was wrong.  I may very well be  wrong.
>
> I would add this advice for you-
> The  standardization of color is critical in industrial pottery
>  manufacture.  Consistent color is required for matching sets of  
tableware.
>  Those that came from the kiln whole, but slightly  off, were sold as
> seconds, thirds, fourths, or even fifths or  sixths.  Consumers ideas 
about
> the closeness of color matching  changed over time.
>
> Once you understand this, you can expect  that the industrial process
> engineers that work with ceramic have  probably used tools like these for
> many decades.  While antique  collectors will swear to you that they can
> tell the difference in two  Spode china plates that were fired with North
> Sea Gas vs. gas from the  continent, engineers tend to be more data 
driven.
>
> I expect  that if you dig into the ceramics engineering literature, you
> will  find some comparative data on the variability of color by kiln load 
by
>  factory.
>
> I don't think IUP has any engineering faculty.   You could get advice by
> contacting Dr. William Carty, Ceramic  Engineering Program Chair and
> Professor of Ceramic Engineering at  Alfred University in New York.  He
> would probably be able to  direct you to someone who knows that part of 
the
> business.
>  http://engineering.alfred.edu/facultyandstaff/
> Be sure to explain your  research question by email, since most engineers
> and materials  scientists that work in ceramics can study everything from
>  superconductors to nanoscale glass!
>
> Cheers,
>  Tim
>
>
> On Feb 20, 2012, at 2:39 PM, John Chenoweth  wrote:
>
> > Dear List,
> >
> > A friend just  pointed this thread out to me.  I’m sorry I haven’t 
chimed
> in  earlier.
> >
> > As it happens, I’ve just been working on  this question over
> > this winter, spending some time collecting  about 2,000 points of data
> with a
> > spectrophotometer on  cream, pearl and whitewares.
> >
> > Spectrophotometers are  much like colorimeters, but whereas
> > colorimeters simplify color  to tristimulus values (L*a*b* values often,
> akin to
> > hue,  chroma, and value that we all know from Munsell) 
spectrophotometers
>  > capture the full spectrum of reflectance at each wavelength.  These  
can
> produce tristimulus values through
> > a simple  conversion, but the latter are not as accurate because of the
> >  phenomenon of “metamerism” in which two different colors look the same
>  (i.e.
> > produce exactly the same colorimeter results) as a result  of the light
> used to
> > examine them.
> >
>  > I obtained a portable spectrophotometer that was extremely
> >  easy to use, although its cost is prohibitive for normal analysis.   
That
> shouldn’t be an issue, really, since I
> > don’t think  the goal of this work will be everyone using machines to
>  identify
> > the color of every ceramic: rather, we need a better  understanding of 
the
> > actual variations of color present and some  statistical analysis that
> can point
> > us to how to deal  with that variation.  So, for instance, we can ask if
> divisions  into cream, pearl, and white
> > are “real” and what kind of margins  of error there are in these
> determinations.
> >
> >  In addition to the divisions (or lack thereof) of cream,
> > pearl,  and whitewares, I’ve been looking at the question of if
> metamerism is  an
> > issue, and how much of an issue (we never see people discuss  the
> conditions
> > under which they make their  identifications, do we?  Yet artificial f.
> natural light makes a  huge
> > difference in appearance!).  These values
> >  can also be converted to precise Munsell values (no margins of error
>  between
> > the chips; these are mathematically produced so you get  values like 
3.4Y
> > 8.9/1.71), so that we can consider earlier  attempts to define ceramic
> color
> > (but without the  well-known problems of Munsell, such as source-light
> variation
>  > and large differences between each individual’s determinations).   
Also,
> we know that color can vary across vessels,
> > yet we  haven’t quantified by how much.
> >
> > Of course, George  Miller’s comments are very central to
> > this discussion (not  surprisingly!).  I
> > think, as he will probably agree, the  question of defining a “master”
> value for
> > each of these  types is probably not going to happen: as he points out 
the
> >  potters all did different things, resulting in a range of  values.
>  Ultimately, Carl Steen is also right that
> >  many other factors go into determinations.
> >
> > BUT, and  here is why I think projects like this are
> > worthwhile) we can  actually measure most of these factors using
> repeatable (I’m
>  > too much of a post-modernist to say “objective”) procedures and
>  equipment:
> > spectrophotometers, glossimeters, durometers,  etc.  We all make all
> these determinations all the
> >  time, but, as Bill Liebeknecht points out with his yellowware story,  
we
> aren’t
> > always sure of what we’re talking about.   Fifty years of experience can
> produce consistency, but it  can’t
> > reconcile with another person’s fifty years of  experience.  The
> conversation has been too long about “is
>  > that yellow enough to be…” and can now be a discussion of what a
>  particular
> > level of yellow (repeatably measured) means.   This doesn’t solve our
> problems, but it means we’re speaking the  same
> > language when we have our discussions, at least.
>  >
> > Finally, I’m sorry to say that all this is prologue,
>  > since I collected the data in question two months ago, but have yet  to
> finish
> > the statistical analysis (must meet up with a  friend who is better at
> > multivariate stats than me!).  At  first
> > glance, the data rather suggests that there are no clear  distinctions
> between
> > cream, pearl, and whitewares on the  basis of color alone, but the issue
> of
> > exactly how  meaningful those classifications are is yet to be settled.
>  >
> > I look forward to reporting the results soon!
> >  Best,
> > John
> > ----------
> > John M.  Chenoweth, PhD, RPA
> > Post-Doctoral Fellow, IHUM
> >  Stanford University
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
>  >
> >
> >
> >  ________________________________
> > From: sent  <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >  Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 9:20 AM
> > Subject: Re: [HISTARCH]  Colorimeter for ceramics
> >
> > All depends on the  questions you wish to ask.
> > Once ceramics enter secondary contexts  these sort of distinctions 
become
> > less important
> > As  they decline in importance with context change then essential 
material
>  > attribute description becomes more important.
> >
> >  Conrad Bladey
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
>  > From: Bill
> > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 8:25 AM
>  > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Colorimeter for  ceramics
> >
> > I agree with Carl.  When looking at an  assemblage you should be more
> > concerned with the larger  picture.  What are the other ceramics found 
in
> >  association.  You can take a piece of white paper and layout the
>  pearlware
> > and creamware sherds and make divisions rather  quickly.  Creamwares or 
CC
> > wares were being produced in  Trenton as late as 1905, specifically
> > chamberpots.  This  just goes back to my point about the association of
> the
> >  wares in context.
> >
> > Bill Liebeknecht, MA RPA
>  > Hunter Research, Inc.
> >
> > -----Original  Message-----
> > From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY  [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of 
Carl
> > Steen
> >  Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 7:59 AM
> > To:  [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Colorimeter for ceramics
>  >
> > Glaze tint varies for many reasons. While early cream and  pearlware do
> have
> > distinctive colors, this varies due to  a number of factors ranging from
> the
> > potters glaze  formula, and firing conditions, to use and deposition
> history.
>  > Also, don't forget that blue and cream tinted wares were  intentionally
> > produced throughout the 19th and 20th centuries. I  can't tell you how
> many
> > times I have seen single sherds  of creamware or pearlware identified in
> > otherwise late contexts.  Glaze tint is only one of many characteristics
> > (density, firing,  decoration, vessel form etc) you have to look at to
> > accurately  date a vessel or sherd, so micro-analysis of glaze tint is
> >  something I wouldn't get too hung up on, personally. But do keep us
>  apprised
> > of your results! Carl
> >
> >
>  >
> >
> > Carl Steen
> >
> >
>  >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:  Conrad Bladey <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: HISTARCH  <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Mon, Feb 20, 2012 7:49 am
>  > Subject: Re: Colorimeter for ceramics
> >
> >
>  > Color is often formed my after market environmental conditions I  would
> > suggest
> > chemical analysis more helpful but  that too. Would be modified by soils
> and
> > heat
>  > etc.
> >
> > Conrad
> >
> >  ----------------------------
> > This message has been written by  fingers that are too big!
> >
> > On Feb 20, 2012, at 6:56  AM, Bob Genheimer <[log in to unmask]>
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Chris
> >>
> >> I  just completed a large scale examination of Cincinnati-area yellow
>  ware,
> > and
> > utilized a full-color Munsell book(s) for  color comparison.  The 
Munsell
> is
> > not
> >  fully adequate, because there is still a small range of color within  
each
> > chip
> > match.  I recognized that a  colorimeter was the way to go, but taking
> > hundreds
> >  of vessels to the colorimeter was just not an option.  I would be  very
> > interested in comparisons of colorimeter data with Munsell  matches.
> >>
> >> Bob Genheimer, RPA
> >>  George Rieveschl Curator of Archaeology
> >> Cincinnati Museum  Center
> >> 1301 Western Avenue
> >> Cincinnati, Ohio  45203
> >> 513-455-7161 office
> >> 513-846-4898  mobile
> >> 513-455-7169 fax
> >>
>  >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From:  HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> >  Christopher Nicholas Marini
> >> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2012  3:47 PM
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject:  Colorimeter for ceramics
> >>
> >> Dear List,
>  >> I am a graduate student at Indiana University of Pennsylvania and I  
am
> > currently looking to begin work on my master's thesis. The  project I am
> > considering involves using a device called a  colorimeter, which 
measures
> > color,
> > to develop a  scale for identifying ceramics, most notably creamware,
> >  pearlware,
> > and whiteware, as I have had personal experience with  the difficulty in
> > identifying these artifact types.
>  >>
> >> I have done some research into this topic, but am  unsure whether or 
not
> > anyone
> > else has already  attempted it. I have looked through several major
> journals
>  > and
> > have not found any reference to such a project. If  anyone knows of work
> of
> > this
> > type that has  been done, please let me know of it so that I may
> incorporate
>  > it
> > into my project or switch thesis topics.
>  >>
> >> Thank you for your time,
> >>  Chris
> >>
> >>
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