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Recent discussion on the Warre Beekeeping
list, concerning the "Einstein quote",  provided
evidence that the quote may have been used 
as far back as June of 1965.

The Warre Beekeeping List is one of my favorite
groups.  There are quite a few experts which
reside on the list, and are willing to share information.
"On Warre Beekeeping, arguments a few, 
learning is abundant."

Credit goes to Luc Pintens, Belgium, via the
Ware Beekeeping Discussion List for uncovering
this information.
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/warrebeekeeping/

=====Cross Post From Warre Beekeeping List=====

Ethnobeeology investigated this also and put it on their Facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=318613838173202&set=a.354938717874047.91\
049.318530098181576&type=1&theater
But I can imagine some are not on Facebook so I'll copy and paste I guess...

A quote mis-attributed to Einstein "If the bee disappears from the surface of
the earth, man would have no more than four years to live. No more bees, no more
pollination ... no more men" - appears in The Irish Beekeeper, v.19-20, 1965-66,
p74, citing Abeilles et Fleurs (Bees and Flowers, the house magazine of Union
Nationale de l'Apiculture Française) for June 1965, also used in a beekeepers'
protest in 1994 in Europe; suggesting invention and attribution to Einstein for
political reasons. In reality Einstein did mention bees ..but is another
way...he said "Science is never finished because the human mind only uses a
small portion of its capacity, and man's exploration of his world is also
limited. If we look at this tree outside whose roots search beneath the pavement
for water, or a flower which sends its sweet smell to the pollinating bees, or
even our own selves and the inner forces that drive us to act, we can see that
we all dance to a mysterious tune, and the piper who plays this melody from an
inscrutable distance—whatever name we give him—Creative Force, or God—escapes
all book knowledge."A. Einstein quoted in William Hermanns, Einstein and the
Poet: In Search of the Cosmic Man (1983). He also wrote "It is evident,
therefore, that the dependence of the individual upon society is a fact of
nature which cannot be abolished—just as in the case of ants and bees. However,
while the whole life process of ants and bees is fixed down to the smallest
detail by rigid, hereditary instincts, the social pattern and interrelationships
of human beings are very variable and susceptible to change." in his essay "Why
Socialism" in the 'Monthly Review' (May 1949).

"So, if Einstein did indeed say it, he must have done so through a medium at a
seance." American entomologist, Volumes 52-53 page 68, Entomological Society of
America, 2006.

Be just, just bee...
Luc Pintens
Belgium

=====End Cross Post From Warre Beekeeping List=====

Best Wishes,
Joe Waggle
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/HistoricalHoneybeeArticles/

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