Need for face to face obsolete??  I think not.  In this ever-growing world of instant communication we seem to have lost personal contact.  As a student making my way through graduate school, I can't afford to go to all conferences that I want to and that is fine. I pick and choose carefully which conferences I attend and which ones I present at.  I would have absolutely no interest in networking or presenting via the web or any other type other than in person.  Online communication with or without video can never take the place of shaking someone's hand and talking face to face to get to know them, or to ask questions, especially for those of us who are trying to make their mark in this field.  


Just my two cents...

 
Peter C QuantockMA Candidate
Department of Anthropology
University of Denver



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Exactly and it is much smoother now. Absolute need for face to face is obsolete.

I think the way to adapt is to put all the presentations and papers and exhibits on line before the event and use the event for question and answer
and vacations. that way information is all shared totally and those who can afford it can have fun interacting with each other.
One would have terminals at the venue to view and hear the presentations as well....

Same too for the job fair aspect and networking- you see I remember when the halls were filled with those discussing artifacts in cigar boxes a few decades ago
it shifted to contracts and jobs and money.

So tell me what would be lost with that alternative?
After all you asked for ideas...

Conrad Bladey
Peasant

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I missed the early part of this conversation, so I am not sure if this has already been brought up, but I think it would be possible to sent up an interactive "conference call" for people who would need to give presentations remotely. Many universities do this now in classes where there is not enough call for certain classes at satellite campuses to hire another instructor. The students from multiple campuses just go to a classroom in their location and the professor teaches at one but can be seen and heard by all and the powerpoint shows up in all locations as well. Students from all locations can discuss and ask questions. Except for the fact that the presentor could not go out to the bar with an interested attendee after the session, it would be just like being there. The problem would be setting up the necessary technology with the cameras and microphones necessary in all locations. You could accomplish the same thing through Skype too.

--- On Sun, 5/6/12, sent <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: sent <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Conferences- Are they excessive in the Modern World? How can costs be lowered?
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Sunday, May 6, 2012, 6:01 AM
> Thanks Alasdair
> 
> I am glad to see progress.
> 
> I am a bit disturbed about extracting money from those who
> are not physically present.
> Surely information should be more important than collecting
> fees and the presence or absence of
> a presenter will not cost more or less money. Could I
> suggest that it might be a bit better to only charge
> a token set up fee?
> Why not have a special venue for unaccompanied
> presentations.....It seems also that these should go on
> line
> as the easiest way to present them just click the screen.
> 
> Good to see flexibility.
> 
> I am not sure about the face to face. Today via the internet
> we are face to face. Yes not in the past
> but technology is so seamless that this old line is IMHO
> retired.
> 
> I think that one suggestion for those who go to mingle and
> do face to face that conferences be established
> for that purpose- just leaving out the academic material and
> presentations at all. People could vacation with each other
> etc.
> 
> I have not had a vacation in around 15 years. Many college
> students working two jobs and full time in the summer to
> pay
> student loans don’t get much of one either but all need
> access to information and to benefit from the research which
> is
> basically for the most part publicly funded. Greater access
> can only mean greater support in the future.
> 
> A lively topic and an important one
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Alasdair Brooks
> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 5:00 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Travelling - a final comment from Leicester
> 
> My apologies to both Julie King and Phil Levy for
> contributing to the derailment of their call for
> contributions to their symposium.  I hope the lively
> debate on a tangential topic has at least given their
> session some free publicity.
> 
> As to the ongoing comments from Conrad about expense for
> archaeologists that inspired my prior post, I would only
> gently reiterate that there are historical archaeologists
> outside the United States as well.
> 
> Given Conrad's comments about remote conferencing I would
> also observe quickly that at least two sessions at SHA 2013
> are indeed exploring some form of digital remote access for
> specific participant constituencies in North America and
> Australia.  While this can never replace the face to
> face interaction of actually attending a conference, we are
> eager to be as flexible as possible with symposium
> formats.   Note that anyone presenting
> remotely/digitally will still need to pay the full
> conference registration fee (this isn't unprecedented; I
> organised a symposium at Amelia Island where one UK
> presenter prepared a recorded powerpoint presentation since
> he couldn't attend in person.  He paid the full
> registration fee despite not being present).  Those
> interested in exploring this should contact me off-list.
> 
> Alasdair Brooks
>