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Well the show should show locations in the background, plus if one thinks it is public, get a subpoena. I am also having my own issues, trying to get others (govt coworkers) to know about why I go to ebay to see what is being sold. They think as govt employees we are wasting time, but I use it to find theft like in this case, and we have it banned on govt servers. 
Our best ally is education, not force to stop these kinds of shows. Plus tell the advertisers they are losing consumers.
 
 
Mark Howe 

"Life is how you make it, the future is how you leave your past." 




> Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 11:52:31 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: American Diggers again (oh no, not again!)
> To: [log in to unmask]
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> I suspect this crew at a minimum to be scofflaws.  If this cannon was indeed found in the bottom of a lake, especially one under the jurisdiction of the US Army Corps of Engineers,  it is a violation of Title 36 regulations and the Archaeological Resource Protection Act (ARPA) to excavate, remove, damage, alter or deface any archaeological resource on government property.  Any artifact found  is government property.  Removal of government property is a violation of Title 36, Part 327.14(a) Destruction, injury, defacement or removal of public property and carries a fine of at least $100.  Any other artifact found on the surface or any artifact  found by digging is protected under ARPA and is punishable by fine of not more than $10,000 or imprisonment not more than one year, or both. If the archaeological and restoration value exceeds $500, violation is punishable by fine of not more than $20,000 or not more than two years imprisonment, or both.  Perhaps this is why they don't specifically mention which lake or exactly where the cannon and other items came from. 
> 
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> 
> dan allen 
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> From: "Susan Walter" <[log in to unmask]> 
> To: [log in to unmask] 
> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 4:12:26 PM 
> Subject: Re: American Diggers again (oh no, not again!) 
> 
> Hi All, 
> 
> IF you all, like me, were trying to explain this ethical problem to a bunch 
> of 10 to 15 year olds, what would YOU say? 
> 
> I have a lot of impoverished students here, and money is a constant issue. 
> My summer classes begins in a couple weeks. 
> 
> S. Walter 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Harding Polk" <[log in to unmask]> 
> To: <[log in to unmask]> 
> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 4:02 PM 
> Subject: American Diggers again (oh no, not again!) 
> 
> 
> Well they've done it again.  AOL/HufffingtonPost posted another  article on 
> American Diggers (see below).  Arrrgh! 
> On the latest episode of “_American Digger_ 
> (http://www.aoltv.com/show/american-digger/9057067) " (Wed., 10 p.m. ET  on 
> Spike), Ric Savage and his crew 
> headed to Jamestown, Va., in search of  colonial relics. But perhaps more 
> exciting than America’s origins was Ric Savage  himself! 
> 
> Savage stopped by the TVReplay studio to chat about his trip and  the 
> amazing discovery he and the American Savage crew made: a British cannon 
> from 
> the 1700s. 
> 
> After a freezing-cold dive, crew member Rue discovered it  at the bottom of 
> a lake. The cannon, combined with a glass onion bottle and a  grenade 
> fragment, got Ric a whopping $10,000. He called the weapon one of the  most 
> important finds in his company’s history. 
> 
> Watch our interview with  Ric above – we talk British accents (he even did 
> one) and, of course, his “Boom  Baby!” catchphrase. Indeed, Ric belted his 
> signature catchphrase for us – a  priceless find in itself. 
> 
> “American Digger” airs Wednesdays at  10 p.m. ET on Spike. 
> 
> Interesting they don't mention what lake, I'm suspecting maybe Lake 
> Champlain because of the cold and British references. 
> More curious is that he is heading to Jamestown VA.  Now I know that  the 
> entire Jamestown Island is owned by NPS, except for a ca. 10 acre parcel 
> owned by the Assoc. for Pres. of VA Antiquities where Jamestown Discovery 
> has 
> been excavating the original fort for the past 10 years plus.  Adjacent on 
> the mainland is Jamestown Fort operated by the Jamestown/Yorktown 
> Foundation.  I don't think any of them is interested in Ric Savage coming 
> to savage 
> their properties.  Is he going to work offshore in the James  River (like 
> Joel Shiner did in the 1950s) and thumb his nose at NPS and  APVA?  Even in 
> the river I'm sure he needs a state permit.  There is a  little private land 
> on the adjacent mainland. 
> 
> Its unfortunate that they are getting continued national press, but I 
> suppose it is to be expected when they continue to find such "important" 
> artifacts (read: most $ for any one artifact).  One wonders what the 
> disposition 
> and, more importantly, its condition is now that it is out of its  mostly 
> stabilized underwater environment.  I'm sure as we sit here and  read, it is 
> popping, fizzing, flaking, and exfoliating  as the oxidation  process 
> (rusting) has been so suddenly accelerated. 
> 
> My rant for today. 
> 
> Harding Polk II 
> 
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