Hi Tim Bennett, Jeffrey Boyer, and the list,
Thanks for the thoughtful emails. I'd like to apologize for my original
email. I did not intend to cause offence, but looking back at it, I can see
that I chose my words poorly.
And apologies for adding yet another email to this string!
Thanks,
Adrian Myers
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Adrian Myers, Doctoral Candidate | Department of Anthropology, Stanford
University
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Tim Bennett <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I want to thank everyone who provided useful suggestions regarding sources
> for 1/4 inch hardware mesh, a number of you provided a variety of options.
> I really do appreciate everyone taking the time to contribute suggestions
> and I forwarded the information on to the member who is in need of it. He
> emailed back asking me to thank the contributors and indicated that he went
> with the stainless steel option provided by Ben Carter.
>
> In regards to Adrian's comments regarding that my original inquiry for a
> source for mesh/hardware cloth suitable for archaeological purposes "might
> be seen as slightly racist", I will just simply state that I find them at
> best absurd and unhelpful. I don't take the comments personally as we've
> never been in contact before and it appears that Adrian was simply trying
> to solicit a discussion apparently on economic/product quality trends
> somehow related to archaeological endeavors as far as I can gather. I'm
> fairly new to the Histarch Listserv, but I would just make a friendly
> suggestion that before making a statement that is potentially inflammatory
> (in this case a suggestion of racism), my advice would be to ask for
> clarification on that specific point. In my opinion, relating a personal
> experience that in part regards a single product from a country purportedly
> with a 7 trillion dollar economy is hardly a statement/referendum on the
> people who
> live there, economic/technological capability, etc and was never meant to
> be either explicitly or implicitly. Obviously, unwoven hardware mesh is
> hardly the first and/or only Chinese made product that I've owned - like
> many of you I have lots of products made in China ranging from expedient to
> "apex" technology and most seem to serve my needs just fine. If anyone
> else has concerns that my original posting was intended as anything other
> than a simple, innocuous inquiry regarding sources of hardware mesh
> suitable for archaeological purposes and a brief outline of my previous
> experiences to acquire a suitable product, please feel free to contact me
> directly as I would rather not tie up everyone's time reading through a
> page long explanation on what I consider the obvious (as several of you
> seemed to also indicate in your replies).
>
>
> Thanks again everyone for all who provided suggestions and have a great
> weekend!
>
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Adrian Myers <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 12:14 PM
> Subject: Re: 1/4 inch screen mesh source
>
> Hey Tim,
>
> My iPhone is made in China and it is the apex of technological
> advancement and quality.
>
> My point being that the fact that the mesh you describe is of low quality
> has nothing to do with it having been made in China, it has to do with the
> American retailers you mention ordering a specific kind of mesh (metal
> type, weave/non-weave, durability, expected uses, etc.) for a specific
> price. Equating "Made in China" with "poor quality" is both bogus, and to
> be honest, might be seen as slightly racist. Of course China makes lots of
> cheap crap, but they also make highly advanced and durable things. And in
> any case, the only reason THEY make it is because WE want it.
>
> I don't at all mean to be argumentative or accusatory towards you Tim
> specifically, I just wanted to point out that I think it's a generalizing
> stereotype that may have had some truth to it in the past,
> but not longer
> does.
>
> And in my defence for going on this tangent (pre-emptive), I think this is
> a very archaeological discussion, in more ways that one! I would be
> interested in other people's opinion on this.
>
> Good luck finding the mesh you are looking for!
>
> Adrian
> __________________________________________________________________
> Adrian Myers, Doctoral Candidate | Department of Anthropology, Stanford
> University
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Tim Bennett <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > Does anybody have a good source for 1/4 in hardware mesh? I did a quick
> > search on the Listserv archives and there are a couple of mentions of it,
> > but that was quite a few years ago, at least what was returned on the
> > search parameters. The 1/4 in
> mesh/hardware cloth that is sold
> at big box
> > stores such as Home Depot, Lowes, Menards, etc is not suitable for
> > archaeological work, at least what is sold in my area of MI. The product
> > they offer is made in China and is not woven and is very thinly
> galvanized.
> > This screen is rendered useless after about 2 days of use. I did quite
> a
> > bit of searching on the internet a couple of years ago but it seems that
> > the only 1/4 mesh out there is the China made non woven stuff or high
> grade
> > stainless steel, brass, etc that is mostly for commercial/industrial
> > purposes. I have a chapter member that is in need of building some
> screens
> > so if anyone has any sources of archaeological quality screen, it would
> be
> > most appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> Tim
> >
>
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