> Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:55:15 -0600
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> Subject: Re: 1906 alcohol bottle query
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>
> Great Response, Alasdair!! Thank you for sending that to all of us.
>
> For anyone interested in the US bitters, Carol Serr, one of my
> colleagues in the Bottle Research Group found the following:
>
>
>
> If one searches on the spelling Salutaris instead…you find (I assume
> what Barb found):
> http://www.westernbitters.com/2010/11/byrne-castree-salutaris-bitters.html
>
> A brief mention here:
> http://www.westernbitters.com/2011/04/early-california-medicines.html
>
> In 1830, a Dr. Siegert was exporting his Angostura bitters to
> England…from S. America…so, why couldn’t Salutaris be exported too?
> http://www.angostura.com/History/HistoryOfAngosturaaromaticbitters/tabid/72/Default.aspx
> “Bitters: A liquor generally spirituous in which a bitter herb leaf or
> root is steeped.”
>
> Trademarks from 1861-1865…according to:
> http://www.learncalifornia.org/GoDocUserFiles/3460.trademark-salutaris-bitters-tm15.jpg
> Bill
>
>
>
> >>> Alasdair Brooks <[log in to unmask]> 6/10/2011 4:12 AM >>>
> Dear Barb,I've recently been analysing several late 19th, early
> 20th-century bottle assemblages from the north of England (all from
> Yorkshire).I know of no period-appropriate evidence from Yorkshire that
> bottles from San Francisco would have reached northern England. In
> fact, until the second decade of the 20th century - with the foundation
> of United Glass in 1913, and the consolidation of the St. Helens-based
> glass industries - much north of England glass manufacture and
> consumption remains highly localised. Identifiable marked (whether by
> firm or manufacturer) bottles are most typically associated with a
> fairly tight 25 mile radius of deposition. This contrasts rather
> starkly with several other British manufacturing industries, though
> that's perhaps a topic for another e-mail.Evidence of any bottle imports
> from outside the United Kingdom is highly limited in these assemblages,
> basically restricted to a French baby-feeding bottle, and one _possible_
> import from New York -
>
> the fragmentary evidence isn't conclusive on the latter.This isn't
> definitive proof that a bottle of Californian Salutaris Bitters wouldn't
> have made it to the UK since the only data I have is selective and
> regional, but I consider it unlikely for a number of reasons. However,
> having now read pages 38-39 of Mrs. Havelock Ellis' book - where the
> reference occurs in a chapter charmingly titled 'drink' - I note that
> the main characters do refer to Salutaris as a "foreign speerit ...
> perhaps Roosian [sic]"; this isn't necessarily intended to be taken
> at face value. They are confused over finding the unfamiliar
> 'Salutaris' bottle mixed in with alcohol bottles; their reaction
> probably seemed comical to contemporary readers, who would have been
> more familiar with the contents.Salutaris water is simply aerated
> bottled water which was sometimes bottled in champagne bottles. It was
> sometimes mixed with alcohol, but not necessarily. Salutaris water was
> made and bottled by
>
> the late 19th, early 20th century Salutaris Water Company of Fulham,
> London. There is no need for American imports from San Francisco for a
> British household to own salutaris water bottles.It was also a common
> treatment for gout in the early 20th century. Your colleague may be
> interested in the introduction of chapter 6, 'diet in gout' of George
> Alexander Sutherland's near-contemporary 1908 Oxford University Press
> book "A System of Diet and Dietetics".This 1880 advert from
> the British Library may also prove
> useful:http://ogimages.bl.uk/images/014/014EVA000000000U07554V00[SVC2].jpgHope
> that helps,Alasdair Brooks
>
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> Dear HistArch'ers
>
> On behalf of a colleague of mine in English literature, I'm reposting
> this
> query in case any of you might be able to help:
>
> "The 1906 book 'My Cornish Neighbors' by Edith Ellis has a passage
> that
> refers to alcohol bottles with red and white labels with the word
> "Salutaris" printed on them. Do you know what spirit this
> would be? Where
> was it made? Is there anywhere I could find an image of this kind of
> bottle?"
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions. A quick google search revealed
> a
> Saluteris Bitters produced in San Francisco around this time but I am
> not
> sure if that would have been exported to England during this period?
>
> --Barb
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