As many times as you have sent me 20 page replies to similar questions I will gladly relinquish the usage to you. My pipe papers are in a box somewhere, but didn't Byron Sudbury and others (as well as Ned Heite) do considerable research on Pamplin and other Virginia pipes? It was quite an industry at one time.
 

 

Carl Steen
 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Smoke <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Fri, Aug 20, 2010 3:53 pm
Subject: Re: Help with interesting effigy pipe (UNCLASSIFIED)


We have found the "cherubic " types at Fontenelle Trading Post and
Fort Atkinson, 1920-1827 (25WN9).  I like that phrase - I plan to
steal it.  :-)

Fontenelle Trading Post at Bellevue, 25-SY-26, complicated ownership history.
     Missouri Fur Company 1823-1824
     Joshua Pilcher        1824-1825
     Pilcher & Partners        1825-1828
     Lucien Fontenelle         1832-ca.1840

It is similar to those produced by Gottfried Aust (1755-1771 &
Christ-Krause (1786-1802) at Bethabara, North Carolina by Moravian
potters (South 1965 & 1967). However, John Holland became the potter
who took over Gottfried Aust’s pottery in nearby Salem, North Carolina
and was known to have made pipes in 1920-1822 (Walker 1969:28). So I
believe the two examples we have from the west bank of the Missouri
date to 1822-23.  Depends on how long they took to make the trip.  I
suspect both were personal property which came west with the owners
and not for sale at the trading post or the sutlers store.  Too few
fragments of this type have been found.

None of these style pipes I have seen from a known archaeological
context have that "carved" appearance.  That is a new one on me.
Remember, this is America.  Whatever is sucesssfully sold WILL be
copied by other for sale.  :-)


On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Carl Steen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I defer to Smoke on all things pipe related, but could this be a Pamplin pipe 
or some other Virginia pipe? The Anthropomorphic pipes in the CHSA volume are 
more cherubic...
>
>
> Carl Steen
>


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