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Martin, I would agree that it's sad that utility is trumping education and curiosity. Very sad.

I think we need to be careful here with what we say though. Why shouldn't we be able to question scientific ideas? Tennessee's main fault here is that it's only questioning evolution and nothing else, which we all would agree is totally inconsistent and missing the point. We should allow each generation to question everything (and feel free and safe to do so). I'm not the only person who has said this.

Claude Lévi-Strauss, widely regarded as the father of modern anthropology, articulated the same idea in 1964 in the first volume of his iconic Mythologiques collection of cultural anthropology: "The scientist is not a person who gives the right answers, he's one who asks the right questions."

In 1966, Richard Feynman addressing the National Science Teachers Association said: " Science alone of all the subjects contains within itself the lesson of the danger of belief in the infallibility of the greatest teachers of the preceding generation."

Erich, you may have "lost every argument you've had with gravity" yet that didn't stop NASA from questioning Einstein's theories regarding gravity and subsequently launching the Gravity B Probe...  

While the government shouldn't be questioning these things for students, I do think the students should be free to question these things (read: everything) for themselves.


Ben Moon
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McWane Science Center
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Well they are just hedging their bets.  I know I've lost every argument I ever had with gravity.  

One step forward, two steps back....

Erich Rose

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On Apr 12, 2012, at 1:03 PM, [log in to unmask] wrote:

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> Seems something I'd expect from the Onion: Tennessee to allow the theory of evolution but not gravity to be questioned in classrooms in a manner that you'd think was settled in Dover. However, unlike the Onion this is not satire. 
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> Stories in most newspapers. Links soon
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>> Hello all,
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>> After recently renovating our own Charles Hayden Planetarium, The Museum of Science, Boston is exploring ways to improve how we market the planetarium experience to our visitors. As part of this effort, we're looking to better understand what the public perceives as a "planetarium experience." Can anyone suggest studies or evaluations that have been conducted around this topic? Any leads on studies, no matter how informal they may have been, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for your help!

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