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Sean Doyle <[log in to unmask]>
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Thank you everyone for your prompt replies, it is a great deal of help. I think the "sharkskin" type most closely resembles what we are looking at.

Sean M.A. Doyle, B.A.

 

Historic Resources Specialist

SWCA Environmental Consultants

295 Interlocken Blvd. Suite 300

Broomfield, CO. 80021
303-487-1183 x.149

-----Original Message-----
From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Susan Walter
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 12:34 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Unidentifiable Porcelain Applique

And if not the other suggestions look up "sharkskin" that's what my Japanese 
fiends call it; the Kovels I think had this in one of their newsletters and 
said it was Korean.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Douglas Ross" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: Unidentifiable Porcelain Applique


Sean,

These fragments are Japanese porcelain of a type know as 'moriage'.
There is a photo and brief description in Alison Stenger's chapter in
Hidden Heritage: Historical Archaeology of the Overseas Chinese,
edited by Priscilla Wegars. That will get you started at least.

Doug Ross


On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Sean Doyle <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Good Morning,
>
> While recording an early 20th Century (1900 - 1920) Homestead in 
> Northeastern Colorado, USA these porcelain sherds were observed in the 
> surface scatter. They are elements of a flow-blue type teapot, 
> specifically the lid and a body sherd, that have a curious appliqué I 
> can't seem to identify. It is a surface coating of some alligator 
> patterned material that is camel in color, and set around a more globular 
> sunburst type paint appliqué. On first glance I thought it was a salt 
> accumulation, but the uniformity of the edge made me lose confidence in 
> that assumption, so I am back to square one. I have looked through Hume, 
> the Maryland database, the Florida Database, Godden, and a few others and 
> the most similar technique I can come up with is a crumb appliqué, which 
> would date significantly earlier than the remainder of the site and well.
>
> The location is in the Central Great Plains, in an open rolling semi-arid 
> area. Alkali deposits within natural sumps (Playa) and wallows are not 
> uncommon. The surface soil is a Platner series Loam beneath a layer of 
> wind blow silt. If that helps.
>
> So, I was hoping to exploit the immense collective of pottery knowledge 
> that is HistArch and perhaps gain some sense of what this thing is.
>
> Photographs:
> http://s1211.photobucket.com/albums/cc421/Locke1683/
>
> Thank You,
>
>
> Sean M.A. Doyle, B.A.
>
>
>
> Historic Resources Specialist
>
> SWCA Environmental Consultants
>
> 295 Interlocken Blvd. Suite 300
>
> Broomfield, CO. 80021
> 303-487-1183 x.149
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Susan 
> Walter
> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 12:43 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: University archaeologists start Tregaron elephant dig
>
> Okay this is a more complete version than that I first saw, and agrees 
> with
> what I've heard.
>
> We don't freeze here (Southern California); our decomposition season is 
> all
> year long.
>
> Seems slightly different also in that all "my" farmers covered their dead
> animals with dirt, whether they were work animals or beef/dairy cattle 
> that
> died unexpectedly near their homes. None of the equine burails here that I
> know of had markers.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lyle E. Browning" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 11:14 AM
> Subject: Re: University archaeologists start Tregaron elephant dig
>
>
> On Apr 11, 2011, at 1:43 PM, Sean Doyle wrote:
>
>> In the cases where they went so far as to identify the markers they only
>> had the name, Demon, Runner, and what not. No indication of species or
>> capacity on the marker. I wonder why the same treatment was not afforded
>> draught animals in agriculturalist sites I've had the opportunity to work
>> on?
> Beef and dairy operations in VA have a designated area where natural loss
> animals are hauled for "open-air" burials. These are invariably in ravines
> at the margins of the pasture and in an intermittent drainage. That said,
> half a mile downwind in the summer the odor is noticeable and within a
> quarter mile it is sickening. VA has two seasons; winter and July so the
> decomp season is March to November with frozen or nearly so in between in
> the higher elevations.
>
> Draught animals often did get burials, but not with markers. The farmers
> knew where they were and used the area as needed. One such situation was
> related in that a team of mules used to haul freight in wagon to the
> steamboats for riverine transport would not stop backing up and went over
> the end of the dock into the Pamunkey River. The crop was lost as were the
> animals. A pit was dug by hand and the animals were rolled in. The last 
> one
> rolled in and came to rest with legs up. Alterations were made with a
> chainsaw to allow dirt to cover the multiple grave. No other markers 
> exist.
> This happened about 80 years ago and is still current with the
> great-grandchildren of the folks to which it happened. Ethnohistory would
> undoubtedly relate more of same.
>
> I have encountered horse "graveyards" with markers with the name and 
> dates.
> It would appear that the farther down the status ladder the animal, the 
> less
> likely it was to be commemorated. And it would have much to do with the
> economic means and mindset of the owners. Commemoration in cement is more
> prevalent in agrarian sites than formalized tombstones. One has to 
> remember
> that most of these animals were working animals, and not household pets. 
> The
> distinction is important when disposable income is scarce on farming 
> profit
> margins.
>
> Lyle Browning, RPA
>
>
>>
>> Susan Walter <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Very true.
>> I have thought of visiting one of our local pet cemeteries; not yet made 
>> a
>> big enough excuse to do so. Just wondering if a working dog would have
>> been
>> marked as such on his/her marker.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sean Doyle" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 10:07 AM
>> Subject: Re: University archaeologists start Tregaron elephant dig
>>
>>
>> The one's in Western Colorado varied between fieldstone and wooden
>> markers.
>> East Texas on the other hand were invariably of stone, at least of the
>> examples I have seen. We did in fact know they were dogs as in all three
>> cases the landowners explained the burials to us.
>>
>> I wanted to add that I should have said "working dogs" instead of simply
>> hunting dogs. The Colorado examples were located in the Piceance and were
>> intermixed with sheep dogs. They always fascinated me, good
>> representations
>> of how much the human relied on and trusted this animal during its
>> lifetime.
>> As much a colleague as a pet.
>>
>> Susan Walter <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> With fieldstones?
>> Did you know they were dogs?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sean Doyle" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 9:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: University archaeologists start Tregaron elephant dig
>>
>>
>> Not so much pets, but hunting dogs. I have seen a great deal of marked
>> hunting dog burials on various rural hunting tracts in both East Texas 
>> and
>> Western Colorado.
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY on behalf of Susan Walter
>> Sent: Mon 4/11/2011 9:01 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: University archaeologists start Tregaron elephant dig
>>
>>
>>
>> Not elephants, BUT often on rural sites I've stumbled (sometimes
>> literally)
>> on what appear to be fieldstone grave markers. In my own yard, our
>> fieldstone markers denote pet burials. Everyone (except Mr. McCoy, who
>> was
>> exhumed and moved to a now unidentified final resting place) is accounted
>> for from my farmhouse, built in 1890; they are in official cemeteries.
>>
>> Anyone else had pet burials marked like that?
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "geoff carver" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2011 12:30 PM
>> Subject: University archaeologists start Tregaron elephant dig
>>
>>
>>> Not quite sure what to think of this; maybe a useful training exercise
>>> (PR?), but...
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-13023965
>>> What archaeological information can the grave of a circus elephant
>>> reveal?
>>> Something about burial customs for circus elephants in 19th c. Wales?
>>
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