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Oh yes, so right. I fall into it myself.  

Erich Rose

Erich Rose Design
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On Jul 20, 2010, at 9:06 PM, Martin Weiss wrote:

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> Eric
> 
> Cruel is anthropomorphic. I understand it is language use and it is often
> very hard to continue with language that adheres to evolutionary thought
> always. However, this stems from the misconception that evolution is a
> fierce battle of survival of the fittest. Evolution produces the just fit
> enough to survive and reproduce. Evolution or nature has no goals or end
> point. This is part of the problem with evolution trees. We, and/or
> multicultural organisms, wind up at the top as if to say we are the best, or
> the goal of evolution, with unicellular organisms—microbes and archae at the
> bottom. We know that we cold not survive without microbes and the
> environment would collapse without them.
> 
> Martin
> 
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Erich Rose <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
>> ISEN-ASTC-L is a service of the Association of Science-Technology Centers
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>> As I was saying evolutionary pressures come in all forms.  During the
>> lifetime of a particular "species" the nuts and bolts concept of survival of
>> the fittest may be quite important. Especially in maintaining a healthy and
>> viable population.  But when it comes down to what will be around after the
>> next environmental calamity the bird with the prettiest feathers may be
>> toast.  While the meek little fella who was hidden in the shadows will be
>> king. Nature WILL be cruel, have no doubt.
>> 
>> If it was as simple as a steady climb toward the fittest creatures we would
>> not see the constant turnover of species that we do thru the fossil record.
>> Instead we might all be some sort of super trilobite!
>> 
>> Erich Rose
>> 
>> Erich Rose Design
>> 807 The Living End
>> Austin, TX 78746
>> 512-626-9930; [log in to unmask]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 20, 2010, at 4:32 PM, Mike Slayton wrote:
>> 
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>>> I don't know this, but even in a static environment, wouldn't the there
>> still be a "survival of the fitness" thing going on?  That is, wouldn't
>> nature favor the most successful traits and continue to evolve those traits?
>>> 
>>> I'm presuming that would go on until everyone reached "angel" status.
>> And it may be, that as in the past, the definition of success and skills
>> needed to be successful would change.  As a aside.....if for no other reason
>> the definition of success  may change to address the all too human trait of
>> trying to avoid boredom.
>>> 
>>> Interesting pondering.
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