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Lisa is my favorite commentator in this discussion thus 
far........that's even if I consider myself with my biases for myself 
intact. 

Thank you Lisa

Lisa Jo Rudy wrote:

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>by the way -- so far as I am aware, nowhere in the Bible does it say that the 
>earth is 6,000 years old.  this number was derived from "begats;" you can 
>click on this hyperlink to see how he did it: 
>http://www.independencebaptist.org/6,000%20Year%20Old%20Earth/6,000_year_old_earth.htm The assumptions are that 
>(1) all the begats are listed; (2) all of the time periods described are 
>literally correct as translated into English.
>
>The same is true of the concept of trinity, which is not in the Bible either 
>(at least, not in its present form).  There is mention of a holy spirit, but 
>it's never described as part and parcel of a trinitarian godhead.
>
>Where I'm going with this is to say -- As a reader of a big chunk of the 
>bible, and an ex-student of religion, I find it to be absolutely impossible to 
>"literally" read the Bible.  
>
>Fact is - -the Bible is self-contradictory on many, many points.  Just 
>starting with Genesis, one has to confront two separate creation stories: the one in 
>which Adam and Eve are made of clay ("male and female created He them") and 
>the one in which Eve is made from Adam's rib.  In order to make sense of this, 
>you have three choices: (1) note that these are two separate creation myths; 
>(2) decide that only one of these is true and the other is false; (3) come up 
>with some strained logic which allows both to be true.
>
>I think that, most of the time, folks who quote the Bible as literal truth 
>are not as familiar as they might be with the actual book itself.
>
>Back to science, though, I agree with those who say that there are a lot of 
>assumptions made in order to even START doing science -- and that those 
>assumptions are not "truth" -- they are interpretations of experience.  Objectivity, 
>in my opinion, is simply unobtainable; so we do our level best with the 
>scientific method.
>
>Lisa Jo Rudy, Writer/Consultant
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>Elkins Park, PA 19027
>http://www.lisarudy.com/
>215-635-9735
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