I had hoped that Conrad had been permanently banned from this list. It that is not the case, I am very disappointed.
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From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of conrad Bladey [[log in to unmask]]
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it’s a game to minimally meet gov standards which are worse than minimal and
open to political manipulation
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From: Jim
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 5:11 PM
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I had all kinds of public work in mind, but should have called out public
archaeology. It needs to be taken seriously, but still seems to be an
afterthought in compliance and in research design development. And yes; it
sure as hell is an intellectual undertaking.
James G. Gibb
Gibb Archaeological Consulting
2554 Carrollton Road
Annapolis, Maryland USA ?? 21403
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On 05/26/15, Publicarchaeology2<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Following from what Jim said, those "post-fieldwork activities" often
include the aspects of archaeology we call public and community
archaeology -- those are archaeology too (and ideally they take place prior,
during AND after fieldwork -- though ideal situations are rare).
In any case, the "evidence" and "data" are different, but need to be taken
just as seriously, and evaluated just as critically (and yes,
intellectually).
Carol
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From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:23 AM
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Subject: Re: Is archaeology still "anti-intellectual"?
I concur wholeheartedly with Ian. Also, I take issue with those for whom
archaeology is all about excavating strata in square holes and then
accurately cataloguing what comes out of the holes. Those are important
parts, but they are parts of a larger enterprise. Few walk away from a field
school with the ability to read and interpret soils and landscapes, or
recognize the unexpected juxtaposition of certain types of artifacts, or
recognize the potential research value of a couple of flakes or ceramic
sherds scattered on the surface. These are all intellectual exercises that
occur at varying levels of abstraction and that often do not follow a simple
linear process. Relating disparate ideas and data, sometimes touching on
work done by others decades ago, often happens in my head so quickly and
intensively it gives me a headache. Fieldwork can, and should, be an
intellectual undertaking. And if it is, so are the preliminaries and the
post-fieldwork activities.
James G. Gibb
Gibb Archaeological Consulting
2554 Carrollton Road
Annapolis, Maryland USA ?? 21403
443.482.9593 (Land) 410.693.3847 (Cell)
www.gibbarchaeology.net ? www.porttobacco.blogspot.com
On 05/26/15, ian Burrow<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
This could be a very wide-ranging and heated discussion!
I first of all take issue with Andrew Sherrat's throw-away generalization,
offered without any real evidence. What, in any case, does he mean by
"anti-intellectual"? If it means not participating in some of the more
verbose, politicized and rarified discussions that the post-processual
mindset(s) generate, then I agree that it could be regarded as
anti-intellectual. However, I feel that post-processualist thought patterns
can be highly anti-intellectual themselves.
I also detect in Sherrat's statement the strand in archaeological thinking
that views "expertise in excavation and typological finesse" merely as
technical (rather than intellectual) competencies and not key elements in
what many of us do in order to study the human past. No amount of
intellectual rigor can compensate for poorly collected data.
Speaking from an American-based CRM archaeology viewpoint I would say the
best practitioners are emphatically not anti-intellectual. Of course a
percentage of CRM work is routine and may not contribute very much to our
understanding of the past. However, well-designed research programs are
regularly being implemented as data-recovery projects all over the U.S.
These require the preparation of well-reasoned, context-based research
designs that are specifically directed at expanding our understanding of the
past. Could some projects benefit from more theoretical input from
institutes of higher learning? Undoubtedly. Is there an effective method of
making this happen systematically? Not in my experience. I recommend Martin
Carver's entertaining book: 'Making Archaeology Happen' as a model of how
this could all work better in practice.
Bottom line: we need to define our terms a bit better, but I say yes, we are
engaged in "sustained inquiry". We are not anti-intellectual as a
profession. When were we?
Ian Burrow, Ph.D. , Registered Professional Archaeologist Vice President,
Hunter Research Inc.
Historical Resource Consultants
120 West State Street
Trenton, Nj 08608-1185
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609-695-0122 xtn 102
Fax 609-695-0147
Mobile: 609-462-2363
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**Hunter Research: Over 25 Years of excellence in cultural resource
management**
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From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Davis,
Daniel (KYTC)
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 10:40 AM
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Subject: Re: Is archaeology still "anti-intellectual"?
I'll say no, but in truth it depends on the person doing the archaeology. I
believe we've moved away from professional pigeon-holing and trait-list
development. Why, I even use statistics! GIS! LiDAR! State-level survey
data! Testable hypotheses!
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From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of geoff
carver
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 10:03 AM
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Subject: Is archaeology still "anti-intellectual"?
When discussing the work of David Clarke, this is part of the explanation
Andrew Sherrat offered for the reaction against processualism:
"Even as taught in many universities, it has had a strongly
anti-intellectual streak, emphasizing expertise in excavation and
typological finesse at the expense of sustained inquiry into the development
of human culture and society."
Is this still true? Is there still "a strongly anti-intellectual streak" in
archaeology?
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