Back to a dying thread:Since so many people mentioned daffodils as an
indicator of historic sites, I thought I might mention Daffseek, a web site
that will help you identify the  variety. Just code in what you know, color,
height, season, and you'll be presented with a listing with photos for
comparison.  Try it out.

http://daffseek.org/query/query.php


Linda Derry
Site Director
Old Cahawba
719 Tremont St.
Selma, AL 36701
ph. 334/875-2529
fax. 334/877-4253
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From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lucy
Wayne
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 9:26 AM
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Subject: Re: Vegetation and Historic Sites

Or daffodils

Lucy Wayne

SouthArc, Inc.
3700 NW 91st Street, Suite D300
Gainesville, FL 32606
(352)372-2633, fax (352)378-3931, toll free 1-888-707-2721
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From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Misty
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Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 12:01 PM
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Subject: Re: Vegetation and Historic Sites

Or mock orange or lilac....



Misty Jackson, Ph.D., RPA
Arbre Croche Cultural Resources
214 South Main Street
Leslie, Michigan 49251
517-589-2467
517-525-3060
On Mar 26, 2011, at 2:31 PM, ray ezell wrote:

> I've not seen anybody mention dog-hobble....
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> Raymond D. Ezell, RPA
> Sr. Archaeologist
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> From: Lyle E. Browning <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 1:45:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Vegetation and Historic Sites
> 
> I think the list is probably the best long-term item coming out of this 
> discussion. Perhaps when done, it might be posted to the NPS website or
some 
> other "permanent" location for down load?
> 
> Also, I don't know if anyone has mentioned them, but ailanthus altissima
(Tree 
> of Heaven at one end; Ghetto Palm at the other of the naming spectrum) is
a 
> common house indicator, although birds spread them to places where houses
were 
> never located. There is also another fast growing, soft wood Chinese "weed
wood" 
> with very large (20cm) multi-lobed leaves that I've never seen outside an
urban 
> environment in VA.
> 
> Also, while not exactly on point for house sites, intentionally introduced

> invasives such as Johnson Grass for cattle fodder can help demarcate old
fields, 
> Kudzu for same although that stuff will eventually cover the planet, and 
> multi-flora rose all date to the 20th century for introduction. Thinking
ahead a 
> bit, bio-sampling will undoubtedly have bug parts so Japanese Beetles may
be in 
> the sample, thus post-dating 1939 if memory serves.
> 
> Finally, there's a website that has a rather extensive list of invasive
plants 
> at:  http://www.invasive.org/weedcd/
> 
> Lyle Browning
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> On Mar 26, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Brad Laffitte wrote:
> 
>> Thanks to everyone for the overwhelming response and discussion.
>> 
>> The whole purpose of posing this question to the group revolves around
what 
>> seems to be a lack of literature on the subject.  We all seem to have 
>> experiences and knowledge with vegetation signatures and historic sites,
but 
>> these connections seem to only be mentioned "in passing" in the
literature for 
>> the southeastern U.S.
>> 
>> I work as an archaeologist at Fort Polk in west-central Louisiana.  We
have 
>> noticed over the years that many historic sites (as indicated from
historic 
>> aerials and other documentation) were missed during previous surveys.  I
am 
>> currently writing an article discussing the reasons behind these sites
being 
>> "overlooked", which will have a section specifically on vegetation that
will 
>> largely be written by the installation botanist.  He is very knowledgable
on the 
>> subject, but I'm trying to help him find any previous work done for the
area or 
>> comparable resources.  We would like to, as was mentioned in one of the
previous 
>> emails, develop a list of trees/shrubs/plants that almost certainly
indicate a 
>> homestead (due to them having to be planted and/or not spreading heavily)
as 
>> well as a list of those that are suspicious enough to justify surveyors
briefly 
>> veering from their transects to further investigate.  This will help
ensure that 
>> future surveyors
>> can be briefed beforehand with respect to types of vegetation to "be on
the 
>> lookout for".
>> 
>> Many thanks,
>> Brad Laffitte
>> 
>> 
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