Gracias. I found a reference to metal points on mountain Shoshone sites in the Absarokas (Scheiber and Finley 2010).
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Subject: Re: metal projectile points, again
Jeff, no, this is just anecdotal. I surveyed so many 40-acre well pads I can't remember beyond that it was in the SW part of the state. I never found any elsewhere in Wyo. We thought the pot (?) metal tended to rust easily and thus didn't preserve well. The points were always a rarity; one was more likely to find a Paleo point fragment than a metal point in that environment. The metal points were rather elegant: perhaps 7 cm in length with an elongated, triangular blade unifacially beveled and a parallel-sided stem. We called them Shoshone points, an attribution as likely as any other.
Definitely a trip in the wayback machine, BJH
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Barbara,
Thanks mucho! Do you mean that the poor quality metal means that the points don't preserve or that they weren't used -- or can you tell the difference? Can you provide me with a reference?
Jeff
Jeffrey L. Boyer, RPA
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Sent: Mon 6/7/2010 10:21 AM
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Subject: Re: metal projectile points, again
Jeff, I found a few in SW Wyoming. The poor quality metal used makes metal points unusual there. The sites were not historic Anglo; no other artifacts were metal or trade items. Admittedly the context was in small, rather ephemeral, sites, and the points were often found on the sandy ground surface.
BJH
Barbara J Hickman, Staff Archeologist
Archeological Studies Program
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Texas Department of Transportation
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>>> "Boyer, Jeffrey, DCA" <[log in to unmask]> 05 June, 2010 6:43 PM >>>
Colleagues, with apologies for cross-postings,
I return once again to questions of ferrous metal projectile points, this time to those points made from thin metal items such as barrel hoops. I'm wondering whether evidence of point manufacture has been found on Euroamerican sites such as ranches, farmsteads, homesteads, and trading posts and, if so, whether manufacturing can be securely attributed to Euroamericans rather than Native Americans.
Gracias,
Jeff
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