Thanks for the reply Maryam.  I have no wish to defend agrochemicals and indeed 
it might be convenient if they were to blame as there would be an easy fix for 
these problems.  My passion - shared by most on this list I hope - is to get at 
the real truth of the problems.  If we don't properly understand the problems 
then we will never arrive at the right solutions.


> for those who want to know more, please come  check out our film. Independant 
>beekeepers in SLovenia, Italy, France,
> England  and all over America have independantly witnessed systemics killing 
>their bees. 
>

I know that there are many beekeepers who hold passionately to these beliefs.  
Some were probably right - I'm sure that there have been poisoning incidents, 
such as the dusty maize clothianidin seed dressing in some European countries a 
couple of years back.  I understand why the French beekeepers blame Gaucho for 
their ills, as their summer colony deaths happened shortly after taking their 
colonies to sunflowers which were grown from seed dressed with it.  At the time 
I believed their opinions on the cause.  However there is now plenty of science 
around that is coming up with answers, conducted by good scientists with open 
minds, and most of it is pointing to other factors as the main causes of CCD and 
similar colony losses elsewhere.

The future of our food supply depends on keeping minds open, and promoting one 
view which is not backed up by good science is not a good way forward in my 
opinion.

best wishes

Gavin


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