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Ellie,
 
Sorry that my last email sent without being completed. I seem to recall  
people attending Lundin's last workshop paid money to attend and part of that  
money paid for his trip and lodging. I missed the last one and would pay to  
attend this one. With good publicity, this could be a fund raiser for the  
Presidio Council.
 
Ron
 
 
In a message dated 9/29/2008 5:58:24 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
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Ron:

Last year we had our hands full at the Mission   workshop and were hoping to 
be invited (and paid) to come back for a CSF  
archaeogeophysical\archaeochemical survey of the grassy areas at the  
Mission.  We would be VERY GLAD to do a future pXRF Workshop at the  Presidio 
at San Diego.  We feel that the CSF archaeogeophysical\  archaeochemical\ 
historical approach tied with GIS and limited test unit  excavations (7, .5 x 
1.0 m test units)  that we did for the NCPTT  "Prospection in Depth" workshop 
last week at the Presidio in San Francisco  would work quite well at the 
Presidio in San Diego and give us some  comparative data for an upcoming SHA 
symposia in 2010 OR, possibly, at SCA  in Modesto next spring.  Claudia and I 
love San Diego and were warmly  welcomed by Jack and Anita when we were last 
there, did the workshop and  went sailing on the Privateer Lynx the next day. 
That was REALLY GOOD  DUTY!

Specificially,  we may have to use a soil augur to get down  below the lawn 
but a tulip planter worked OK at the Presidio last week and  the best and 
time efficient way to do it is have someone dig the holes and  remove the sod 
FIRST before we start the survey.  Claudia and one of  her students is 
working on an archaeobiochemical technique that we hope to  develope for pXRF 
archaeobiochemical studies of vegetated terraines.   This technique involves 
giving the grass "plug" a haircut, saving and  drying the grass and, then 
analyzing the grass with the pXRF.  So  far, It seems to work fairly well in 
mirroring the soil data and I can  send you an example of the results from 
Pershing Square by seperate e-mail  if you are interested.

If you can arrange this, we would be available  to come down some weekend 
this winter when our rather busy schedules  permit and our expenses can be 
covered.

Sincerely,

Richard  J. Lundin BA, MA, RPA, ISAP
Consulting Historical Archaeologist &  Remote Sensing Specialist 
(Archaeogeophysics)
Director, Wondjina  Research Institute



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron  May" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday,  September 29, 2008 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: Presidio de San  Diego


> Richard,
>
> While I know you conducted your  tests at Mission San Diego, I am surprised
> you did not run the  machines over the public park lawns at the Presidio de 
> San
>  Diego. Most of the walls are visible as lumps in the lawn, but a lot 
>  remains
> unknown under the more level lawns. The actual jail location  remains a
> mystery,  as does the south wall and many of the rooms  (now under gardens 
> or lawn).
> The  parking lot is in the  vicinity of the east wall and ammunition 
> casemate.
>  There  is the Vallejo Map, created for an artist named Vischer that could  
> be
> used to  test findings. The Presidio Council manages  the Presidio and 
> probably
> would be  interested in your  testing. There is a lot more of these ruins 
> than
> you  will  find at Santa Barbara.
>
> Ron May
> Legacy 106,  Inc.
>
>
> In a message dated 9/29/2008 4:19:13 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
>  Bob:
>
> Claudia and I would really like to see your work at  Santa  Barbara and 
> what
> methods you are using for  protection\reconstruction of  adobe walls.  We 
> did
>  a pXRF Workshop for Jack Williams last November  in San Diego at the  
> Mission
> and it went very well.  Could you use  this  technology at the Presidio in
> Santa Barbara?   We just   finished pXRF studies of the Pershing Square 
> site
> of the  1815-1822  Presidio at San Francisco for Dave Morgan and NCPTT  and
> will be getting  that data out over the next month. Would you  be 
> interested
> in such a  workshop at Santa Barbara in  February or March?
>
> We are used to working  on Presidios  in Arizona and hope to go back this
> winter or next and do a  CSF  archeogeophysical and archaeochemical 
> workshop
> on the 1840's  Mexican  Hacienda y Presidio de Babocomari and the Spanish
>  presidio of  Terrenate.  We would welcome the participation of you  or any 
> of
> your  students.  Both sites have standing  walls are relatively intatact 
> and
> are known to Jack  Williams.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Richard J. Lundin  BA,  MA, RPA, ISAP
> Consulting Historical Archaeologist &  Remote Sensing  Specialist
> (Archaeogeophysics)
> Director,  Wondjina Research  Insitute
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From:  <[log in to unmask]>
> To:  <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday,  September 29, 2008 1:08  PM
> Subject: Re: Presidio de San   Diego
>
>
>> The computer simulatiuon sounds like a great  idea,  though I have not yet
>> seen
>> the one for  SD.    Meanwhile, reconstruction is physically impossible  at
>> Monterey or San  Francisco, and politicaly impractical at  SD, so SB will
>> have  to
>> remain the only partially  reconstructed presidio in  California.   We 
>>  have
>> successfully incorporated surviving  historic structures  into the
>> reconstruction and
>> do thorough   archaeology before any above ground building.   This is  an
>>  alternative to the current NPS philosophy of stablizing  ruins. At the 
>> same
>
>> time, it
>> costs  the taxpayer nothing.
>> R.L.   Hoover
>>
>>
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