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Rich Lundin <[log in to unmask]>
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Ron:

Last year we had our hands full at the Mission  workshop and were hoping to 
be invited (and paid) to come back for a CSF 
archaeogeophysical\archaeochemical survey of the grassy areas at the 
Mission.  We would be VERY GLAD to do a future pXRF Workshop at the Presidio 
at San Diego.  We feel that the CSF archaeogeophysical\ archaeochemical\ 
historical approach tied with GIS and limited test unit excavations (7, .5 x 
1.0 m test units)  that we did for the NCPTT "Prospection in Depth" workshop 
last week at the Presidio in San Francisco would work quite well at the 
Presidio in San Diego and give us some comparative data for an upcoming SHA 
symposia in 2010 OR, possibly, at SCA in Modesto next spring.  Claudia and I 
love San Diego and were warmly welcomed by Jack and Anita when we were last 
there, did the workshop and went sailing on the Privateer Lynx the next day. 
That was REALLY GOOD DUTY!

Specificially,  we may have to use a soil augur to get down below the lawn 
but a tulip planter worked OK at the Presidio last week and the best and 
time efficient way to do it is have someone dig the holes and remove the sod 
FIRST before we start the survey.  Claudia and one of her students is 
working on an archaeobiochemical technique that we hope to develope for pXRF 
archaeobiochemical studies of vegetated terraines.  This technique involves 
giving the grass "plug" a haircut, saving and drying the grass and, then 
analyzing the grass with the pXRF.  So far, It seems to work fairly well in 
mirroring the soil data and I can send you an example of the results from 
Pershing Square by seperate e-mail if you are interested.

If you can arrange this, we would be available to come down some weekend 
this winter when our rather busy schedules permit and our expenses can be 
covered.

Sincerely,

Richard J. Lundin BA, MA, RPA, ISAP
Consulting Historical Archaeologist & Remote Sensing Specialist 
(Archaeogeophysics)
Director, Wondjina Research Institute



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron May" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: Presidio de San Diego


> Richard,
>
> While I know you conducted your tests at Mission San Diego, I am surprised
> you did not run the machines over the public park lawns at the Presidio de 
> San
> Diego. Most of the walls are visible as lumps in the lawn, but a lot 
> remains
> unknown under the more level lawns. The actual jail location remains a
> mystery,  as does the south wall and many of the rooms (now under gardens 
> or lawn).
> The  parking lot is in the vicinity of the east wall and ammunition 
> casemate.
> There  is the Vallejo Map, created for an artist named Vischer that could 
> be
> used to  test findings. The Presidio Council manages the Presidio and 
> probably
> would be  interested in your testing. There is a lot more of these ruins 
> than
> you will  find at Santa Barbara.
>
> Ron May
> Legacy 106, Inc.
>
>
> In a message dated 9/29/2008 4:19:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> Bob:
>
> Claudia and I would really like to see your work at Santa  Barbara and 
> what
> methods you are using for protection\reconstruction of  adobe walls.  We 
> did
> a pXRF Workshop for Jack Williams last November  in San Diego at the 
> Mission
> and it went very well.  Could you use  this technology at the Presidio in
> Santa Barbara?   We just  finished pXRF studies of the Pershing Square 
> site
> of the 1815-1822  Presidio at San Francisco for Dave Morgan and NCPTT and
> will be getting  that data out over the next month. Would you be 
> interested
> in such a  workshop at Santa Barbara in February or March?
>
> We are used to working  on Presidios in Arizona and hope to go back this
> winter or next and do a  CSF archeogeophysical and archaeochemical 
> workshop
> on the 1840's Mexican  Hacienda y Presidio de Babocomari and the Spanish
> presidio of  Terrenate.  We would welcome the participation of you or any 
> of
> your  students.  Both sites have standing walls are relatively intatact 
> and
> are known to Jack Williams.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Richard J. Lundin BA,  MA, RPA, ISAP
> Consulting Historical Archaeologist & Remote Sensing  Specialist
> (Archaeogeophysics)
> Director, Wondjina Research  Insitute
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From:  <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday,  September 29, 2008 1:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Presidio de San  Diego
>
>
>> The computer simulatiuon sounds like a great idea,  though I have not yet
>> seen
>> the one for SD.    Meanwhile, reconstruction is physically impossible at
>> Monterey or San  Francisco, and politicaly impractical at SD, so SB will
>> have  to
>> remain the only partially reconstructed presidio in  California.   We 
>> have
>> successfully incorporated surviving  historic structures into the
>> reconstruction and
>> do thorough  archaeology before any above ground building.   This is an
>>  alternative to the current NPS philosophy of stablizing ruins. At the 
>> same
>
>> time, it
>> costs the taxpayer nothing.
>> R.L.  Hoover
>>
>>
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