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Gwyn,

Thank you for the note. The LA eruv is among the ones I have in the list of Eruv Websites I will be posting next week; thanks for the article link.

Regarding the two questions about photos and undergrounding:

1. I requested permission to shoot from the people ahead of time. Clearly I couldn't ask everyone in a streetscape for permission or get a release signed so as I wrote, it presented a paradox and I think the way I handled it in the posts respects the individual and group wishes. The biggest photo concern came from folks walking out of the shul who were worried about security, i.e., potential threats by anti-semitic activists, etc. I have gotten emails from several folks in these communities who are pleased with the posts and how I handled the privacy issue.

2. The undergrounding is an interesting question. If the above-ground infrastructure were to disappear, then there are several options -- costly ones -- that could be deployed. In final post in the series I'll be dealing with the issues of technology, i.e., lasers as eruv boundaries, the Internet, and the arrival of new technologies that require space on existing utility poles that displace existing wires and pole attachments. The introduction of cable television actually created problems for the eruv managers.

David Rotenstein

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-----Original Message-----
From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gwyn Alcock
Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:21 PM
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Subject: Re: Blog series on Jewish cultural landscapes in Montgomery County, MD

Interesting work. I first heard of eruvim from this story in the LA Times on the 
Los Angeles Community Eruv:
"The present Los Angeles Community Eruv — which includes Hancock Park,  West 
Hollywood, Beverly Hills, Westwood and the Pico-Robertson area — is  80 square 
miles and bordered, roughly, by the 10, 101 and 405 freeways.  It was 
established about 2 1/2 years ago; formerly, there were a number  of smaller 
eruvim in the city, said Mickey Fenig, an attorney who helped create the new 
district."  
http://www.latimes.com/classified/realestate/news/la-re-guide17sep17,0,2985062.story


The LAC Eruv has a wonderful web page, www.laeruv.com(obviously, lights won't 
work for such a large space); the home page says whether the eruv is up, down, 
or unchecked. It also shows the eruv being established and checked (even by 
helicopter).

But back to your original post:
What would be the effect on the congregation if one or more of the secular 
communities in or partially within an eruv decided to underground the utilities, 
perhaps as part of improvements to a district nomination?

How then could the eruv be re-established? Would individual private landowners 
need to assent to having lechi and kaneh attached to their buildings and 
structures?

Also, you write that you're preserving people's desire not to be photographed on 
the Sabbath by not showing their faces. Does that omission satisfy the intent of 
the ban on photography in their opinion? (This is an emic/etic issue.) I'm 
thinking of the larger issue of you continuing to have their cooperation, 
without inadvertently offending them.

Regards,

Gwyn Alcock
Riverside, CA




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From: David S. Rotenstein <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thu, October 28, 2010 8:08:59 AM
Subject: Blog series on Jewish cultural landscapes in Montgomery County, MD

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I am doing a little out-of-pocket research on the six Orthodox Jewish eruvim
in a Washington, D.C., suburban county. The project page for Courtyards of
<http://historian4hire.wordpress.com/eruvim/>  Convenience: Montgomery
County's Eruvim is at this link: <Courtyards of Convenience:
<http://historian4hire.wordpress.com/eruvim/>  Montgomery County's Eruvim>.
The first three posts on mapping the eruvim; a brief video interview with an
eruv inspector; and the architecture of Montgomery County's eruvim are
already loaded. The final entries will be posted over the next four weeks.



The blog posts are a way to get additional information and to work through
some thoughts on presenting these traditional cultural landscapes. As a
consultant who works in regulatory compliance, I am interested in how
federal agencies and others may address eruvim as traditional cultural
properties within the National Historic Preservation Act (Section 106)  and
National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) frameworks.



David Rotenstein

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