In message <[log in to unmask]>, J. 
Waggle <[log in to unmask]> writes
> Anytime you are
>examining the person and not the issues, that is a personal attack.

Shades of grey area this. If a person is a prominent advancer of a 
particular idea, one which is controversial in any way, you can expect 
their name to be mentioned many times in a variety of postings ranging 
from the cold, to the warm, to the downright hot. Yet most times they 
are examining the issues, not attacking the person as such. If its Fred 
Blogg's assertion that such a thing is a fact we would all benefit from, 
and many disagree, I would expect to see 'Fred' crop up all the time. 
Its not as if anyone is calling Fred fat, or ugly, or a soap dodger, 
just questioning his ideas.

>Perhaps, a requirement for credentials could be left out altogether.  With
>or without credentials, wouldn’t you expect the issue being discussed to
>stand up to scrutiny?

>
Sorry for apparently bringing small cell into it a gain, but REALLY, in 
this case its a coincidence and an example of why credentials really DO 
count.

Just today I was doing a bit of a search about varroa on the Big Island 
of Hawaii. I was wondering how far it had spread and whether it might 
compromise me getting a renewal on my (unused for a few seasons now) 
import license for Kona carniolans.

I came across a local (Hilo) discussion board from the very start of the 
incident. As early as only the 7th post a mainland small celler found it 
and started spreading the gospel on how the islands bees could be saved.

Immediate change to small cell, no treatment for any colonies, and he 
had had a briefing from, or consultation with (not specifically about 
Hawaii), the prime figure in the movement. He was even talking of 
travelling over there to meet them and show them how it was done.

He had made a success of small cell and thought Hawaii could too.

Now this may or may not be true, but turns out this guy, who may indeed 
be a perfectly good beekeeper as I dont know who he is, went on to 
reveal he had been out of bees since tracheal mites hit the US, had 
restarted with two colonies in 2006 and added more in 2007 and now had 
15 colonies.

Credentials don't count?

I can imagine this guy turning up in Gus Rowse's office to spread the 
word, and the reception it might get.
-- 
Murray McGregor

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