-- Bill T <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>I often meet people who are "organic" and are successful, but when I
question them they are using oxalic, formic, wintergreen, thymol or any
other ... I have yet to meet anyone who controls
mites with no treatment or hive manipulation (drone trapping). I have read about them here on the BeeL, but anyone can say anything here with no proof at all.

bill, you are welcome to come down to massachusetts some time and see.  we use nothing inside the hive, do not use drone trapping (and have plenty of drone brood by way of foundationless).  whether or not we are "successful" really depends on the definition of "success".

deknow

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