Hello Randy & All,

> This is all a learning curve for me--I sure appreciate hearing Bob's
> and others' experiences.

Me too! Its very hard for the makers of apigard and miteaway 2 to produce a 
label which fits all needs.
Usually only slight modification is needed. usually the modification 
involves less of the product or modification due to temperature concerns.

I will say the brood loss *in a healthy strong hive* with the above is 
minimal compared to the need to knock varroa back with both products.

However with careful attention to temps and making a few slight changes you 
can almost eliminate the brood kill.

Both apistan & checkmite had high efficacy when first released. I could 
clear a strong hive of varroa with both products with a single strip. I 
NEVER used more than a single strip ( 2 deep brood boxes).

 many beeks followed label and used 2 apistan in top and two in the bottom 
box. Same with checkmite.

Dumb and overkill! Like using 00 buckshot to kill a rabbit or pheasant!

No wonder high levels of choumaphos & fluvalinate are found in their comb. 
Those beeks followed label without testing. Waste of money and contaminated 
their comb. Of course the makers said comb contamination would never be a 
problem. Said these levels were needed for varroa control.

bob 

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