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Sara,

Look at Museum of the Earth (Ithaca, NY).  They put out a docent guide  
that looked at how to address Creationist queries...

-William

On Jul 13, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Sara De Angelis wrote:

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> Hi All,
>
> I've been following this morning thread eagerly.
>
> I'm wondering how many organizations out there have adopted a  
> specific policy statement or formal stance with respect to  
> evolution.  I know I've seen a lot of discussion around this topic.  
> (In searching through this listserv's archives I can't seem to find  
> peoples commentary on the pro's and con's of having an institutional  
> stance.)  We're in the planning stages for a new exhibition and I'm  
> anticipating that having an institutionally agreed upon framework  
> for answering questions that may come up may prove quite useful.   
> Anyone care to share their policy and or guidance either on list or  
> off.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sara
>
>
> Sara DeAngelis
> Senior Exhibit Developer
> Children's Discovery Museum of San Jose
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> On Jul 13, 2009, at 9:32 AM, martin weiss wrote:
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>> ISEN-ASTC-L is a service of the Association of Science-Technology  
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>> On Jul 13, 2009, at 11:55 AM, Jack W Cannon wrote:
>>
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>>> Stephan,
>>>
>>> Thank you for the response.
>>>
>>> He did not call it science.  Nor did he  try to affect political  
>>> or education leaders into making laws and policies.  He never said  
>>> that he was teaching, although the event was billed as a seminar.   
>>> He even stated in a private conversation that he was preaching.
>>>
>>> He did emphasize his claimed doctorate in anatomy and neurobiology.
>>>
>>> I did not make any attempt to debate him.  I was well aware that  
>>> he would have an appropriate response regardless of any point that  
>>> I would try to make.  Otherwise he would not be in the position  
>>> that he occupied.  I realized this years ago when the tobacco  
>>> companies would send their con men around to spread their junk  
>>> science.  I studied their positions and knew their responses from  
>>> the mistakes that others made.  On the very first time that I  
>>> accepted an invitation to debate one of them, I was prepared.  The  
>>> tobacco industry propagandist became completely frustrated and got  
>>> up and walked out of the studio leaving me alone to respond to the  
>>> call-ins from the listeners.  After that they would always find an  
>>> excuse to cancel when my name was mentioned to them.  I  
>>> accomplished this only by seriously studying their tactics to the  
>>> point that I knew every word that was going to come out of their  
>>> mouth.
>>>
>>> I did take the opportunity to ask a very innocent sounding  
>>> question and he had no choice but to take the bait.  I even heard  
>>> some audience snickers when he did.
>>>
>>> I am not convinced that he actually believes the material that he  
>>> presents. I think that he is a professional con man that has found  
>>> a market opportunity for his particular message and is simply  
>>> responding to the demand that presents itself from well-meaning  
>>> parishioners.
>>
>> Con men usually gain something eg money, influence etc. What was he  
>> getting out of it especially if you feel he did not believe in what  
>> he was preaching? Did the church pay him to speak?
>>
>> He sounds like an interesting cultural phenomenon and is somewhat  
>> benign however people like the Creation Museum in Lexington,  
>> Kentucky and the recent efforts in Texas are not so benign. They  
>> seem the real danger.
>>
>> Martin
>>>
>>> Jack Cannon
>>
>> ______________________________
>> ______________________________
>> Martin Weiss, PhD
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>> New York Hall of Science
>> mweiss at nyscience dot org
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