A story:
When I was in the Air wing of the Marines there was an ordanance man,
Sgt by rank, that liked to remove the powder from the huge shot gun
shells we used in practice bombs. One day he took six shells and
piled the powder in a pile on the tarmack. With head over the powder
he dropped a lit cigarette on the pile. the SA lost his eye brows,
eye lashes, mustache and the front of his hair and acquired a
terrible sun tan and his three strips. AND you can't believe chickens
wouldn't eat small bullets. We raised chickens for a living during
the depression and believe me chickens will eat everything including
each other. Never heard of one going off though!!! Would certainly
cause a BAD CASE OF INDIGESTION and HEART BURN.
At 11:44 AM 2/11/2009, you wrote:
>I really cannot envision a sane person piercing a bullet with a knife. All
>my stuck .22 bullets or shells were extracted by pushing a pen knife blade
>behind the flange at the rear and scratched the shell. But I could
>see a couple
>of liquored up teens (or adults with a teenage mentality) dreaming up some
>sort of mumbly peg dare game of stabbing bullets (maybe for dollars).
>
>Ron May
>Legacy 106, Inc.
>
>
>In a message dated 2/11/2009 8:55:30 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
>[log in to unmask] writes:
>
>IMHO:
>
>The logic behind cutting metallic cartridges to salvage lead and
>powder seems a little "forced" to me. A pair of pliers to pull
>bullets make a lot more sense, and would be a lot safer than cutting
>into loaded cartridges, and frankly, I would assume that most lead
>bullets could be dislodged from most cartridges using simple
>hand/finger power, even without a pair of pliers. But I haven't
>personally tried that ...
>
>.22 caliber wind chimes made me laugh, though ...
>
>Mark
>
>
>
> >Hmmm...interesting responses you've gotten and all sound like viable ideas.
> >
> >A co-worker of mine, Doreen Cooper, found a number of Colt .45
> >cartridge cases that had been cut in a similar manner in a military
> >context dating to 1902 in Skagway, Alaska . Here is what her
> >armaments analyst, Charles Atkins, had to say:
> >
> >"A cut in the case, in the area that formally held the bullet, is
> >rare but not unknown in Alaska. This cut is used to unload the case
> >and salvage the powder and lead. This was accomplished by placing
> >the loaded cartridge on a hard surface, probably containing a groove
> >to stabilize it.. Then a knife like tool was placed in such a way as
> >to cut the brass case lengthwise over the bullet. The tool was then
> >struck, cutting the brass case and releasing the bullet. The bullet
> >could then be removed and saved for recasting into whatever shape or
> >size was needed and powder could be saved and reloading into another
> >cartridge."
> >
> >Cooper went on to suggest that the soldiers inhabiting the small
> >sheds where these cartridges were found were salvaging bullets and
> >powder for use in personal weapons for hunting wild game in
> >off-hours.
> >
> >Here is the citation:
> >
> >Cooper, Doreen C.
> >2004 Gold Rush Life in Skagway: The Second Avenue "Cabins."
> >Report submitted to General Services Administration, Auburn,
> >Washington, by R & D Consulting, Skagway, Alaska. p. 95.
> >
> >Hope this helps.
> >
> >Catherine Holder Spude, PhD
> >7 Avenida Vista Grande #145
> >Santa Fe, NM 87508
> >505-466-1476 home
> >505-913-1326 cell
> >
> >"Life is not tried, it is merely survived if you are standing
> >outside the fire," Jenny Yates and Garth Brooks.
> >
> >--------------------------------------------------
> >From: "Avery, Paul" <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 6:07 AM
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Subject: Cartridge Case Question
> >
> >>Hello all,
> >>
> >>We did some work recently at an 1830s plantation house in North
> >>Carolina. We recovered a fairly large number of cartridge cases from
> >>what appears to be an early 20th century deposit. It was located just
> >>off of the front porch, so it looks like they were sitting on the porch
> >>and plinking. There were some unusual calibers, including several .32
> >>Winchester Self-Loading Rifle and .22 Winchester Automatic. The most
> >>unusual thing though, was that there were more than a dozen .22 short
> >>and .22 long cases that appear to have been jabbed with a knife. The
> >>cut goes through one wall of the case and runs lengthwise just above the
> >>rim.
> >>
> >>Is this just random behavior indicative of boredom or is there more to
> >>it than that?
> >>
> >>Someone suggested that the cases were sticking in the person's gun and
> >>they used the knife to remove the case. That makes some sense, but
> >>there isn't enough space between the edge of the cut and the mouth of
> >>the case on the .22 shorts for it to be stuck. I can't imagine how they
> >>managed to get the things to stay still while they punched the hole in
> >>them. Risky indeed to hold something that small and stab it with enough
> >>force to puncture the case!
> >>
> >>I plan to try it myself as soon as I have a chance to create some empty
> >>.22 cases, but in the meantime, I'd like to hear from the group.
> >>
> >>Thanks!
> >>
> >>Paul G. Avery, RPA
> >>Senior Archaeologist
> >>MACTEC Engineering and Consulting
> >>9725 Cogdill Road
> >>Knoxville, TN 37932
> >>Phone: (865) 588-8544x1169
> >>Fax: (865) 588-8026
>
>
>--
>
>Mark C. Branstner, RPA
>Historic Archaeologist
>
>Illinois Transportation
>Archaeological Research Program
>University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
>209 Nuclear Physics Lab, MC-571
>23 East Stadium Drive
>Champaign, IL 61820
>
>Phone: 217.244.0892
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