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Sara,
Look at Museum of the Earth (Ithaca, NY). They put out a docent guide
that looked at how to address Creationist queries...
-William
On Jul 13, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Sara De Angelis wrote:
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> Hi All,
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> I've been following this morning thread eagerly.
>
> I'm wondering how many organizations out there have adopted a
> specific policy statement or formal stance with respect to
> evolution. I know I've seen a lot of discussion around this topic.
> (In searching through this listserv's archives I can't seem to find
> peoples commentary on the pro's and con's of having an institutional
> stance.) We're in the planning stages for a new exhibition and I'm
> anticipating that having an institutionally agreed upon framework
> for answering questions that may come up may prove quite useful.
> Anyone care to share their policy and or guidance either on list or
> off.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sara
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> Sara DeAngelis
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> On Jul 13, 2009, at 9:32 AM, martin weiss wrote:
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>> On Jul 13, 2009, at 11:55 AM, Jack W Cannon wrote:
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>>> Stephan,
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>>> Thank you for the response.
>>>
>>> He did not call it science. Nor did he try to affect political
>>> or education leaders into making laws and policies. He never said
>>> that he was teaching, although the event was billed as a seminar.
>>> He even stated in a private conversation that he was preaching.
>>>
>>> He did emphasize his claimed doctorate in anatomy and neurobiology.
>>>
>>> I did not make any attempt to debate him. I was well aware that
>>> he would have an appropriate response regardless of any point that
>>> I would try to make. Otherwise he would not be in the position
>>> that he occupied. I realized this years ago when the tobacco
>>> companies would send their con men around to spread their junk
>>> science. I studied their positions and knew their responses from
>>> the mistakes that others made. On the very first time that I
>>> accepted an invitation to debate one of them, I was prepared. The
>>> tobacco industry propagandist became completely frustrated and got
>>> up and walked out of the studio leaving me alone to respond to the
>>> call-ins from the listeners. After that they would always find an
>>> excuse to cancel when my name was mentioned to them. I
>>> accomplished this only by seriously studying their tactics to the
>>> point that I knew every word that was going to come out of their
>>> mouth.
>>>
>>> I did take the opportunity to ask a very innocent sounding
>>> question and he had no choice but to take the bait. I even heard
>>> some audience snickers when he did.
>>>
>>> I am not convinced that he actually believes the material that he
>>> presents. I think that he is a professional con man that has found
>>> a market opportunity for his particular message and is simply
>>> responding to the demand that presents itself from well-meaning
>>> parishioners.
>>
>> Con men usually gain something eg money, influence etc. What was he
>> getting out of it especially if you feel he did not believe in what
>> he was preaching? Did the church pay him to speak?
>>
>> He sounds like an interesting cultural phenomenon and is somewhat
>> benign however people like the Creation Museum in Lexington,
>> Kentucky and the recent efforts in Texas are not so benign. They
>> seem the real danger.
>>
>> Martin
>>>
>>> Jack Cannon
>>
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