Hi Nancy- Thanks for the help. I'll check the Downes collection. I have looked at online property records (which are spotty in SC, at best), but haven't gotten to the physical records yet. The two pieces marked "F.E. Justice Maker" are tablet style grave markers.
Carl Steen
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From: Nancy S. Dickinson <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 6:03 pm
Subject: Re: Potters
Hi all,
Perhaps checking into land records may be a way to go. At least in NYC
and CT, grantor/grantee records were indexed by WPA folks, and the
conveyances themselves have been microfilmed more recently.
As for 1870 Fairfield County, whose countryside was probably similar to
the countryside during that time period in SC, one can take a contemporary
Beers atlas (with landowners' and tenants' surnames included) and compare it
with the 1870 federal census. One can even see exactly the direction down
roads that the enumerator traveled.
Carl,
You have marked pieces. Have you checked with the Downes collection at
Winterthur? I remember going through an assemblage of newspaper notices/ads.
I can't remember how they are organized, but I believe once found in a
finding aid, I was able to look at them on microfilm.
What do the ceramics look like?
Best wishes,
Nancy Dickinson
In a message dated 5/24/2010 3:52:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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I am not familiar with US only UK censuses. However, in UK they record
who was resident on the night of the census so if your guy was visiting
mamma and papa or even working at night away he might he might easily be
missing. Nick names and mis-spellings are common. Multiple source
research is the answer as intimated by Susan. As a historian as well as
an archaeologist its nice to see some good source criticism by the
respondents. So often what marks the good 'historian' from whatever
discipline they started is not just clever ideas but understanding the
nature of the sources and if you do that they often tell you things you
weren't expecting to find..
paul
On 24/05/2010 19:56, Carl Steen wrote:
> I agree with Susan and Meli, which is why I tried casting a wider net.
Someone came up with a Franklin E. Justice in Union County Ohio in the
1870 census, which I did not find in my nationwide search. Unfortunately I
have marked pieces from 1868 and 1873, which suggests its a different guy...
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> From: Susan Walter<[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 2:49 pm
> Subject: Re: Potters
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> Meli's right, the transcribers do make mistakes, but so did the census
takers. And if your "informant" at the door giving the information is an
uneducated foreign servant, or a child, for instance, the poor census taker
often just phonetically did the best he/she could do.
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> There is another problem I have encountered here in San Diego County;
the census never got to parts of it. Our border region is very poorly
documented.
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> I have located names using land use maps, directories, newspaper
accounts, school records, etc that never show up, in spite of their residence
here
for several decades.
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> Good luck.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melissa
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> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 10:09 AM
> Subject: Re: Potters
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> Ancestry.com is very useful, and I use it a lot. But the transcribers
didn't always get the names right, so the entry won't come up in a search. In
some cases, I ended up leaving through all the pages for my community and
period, to find names that should have come up from a search but didn't.
And sometimes they just aren't there, or turn up in a neighboring township
instead.
> Good luck hunting.
> Meli Diamanti
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> --- On Mon, 5/24/10, Carl Steen<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> From: Carl Steen<[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Potters
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Monday, May 24, 2010, 12:32 PM
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> Hi all-
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> Has anyone ever heard of a potter named F.E. Justice? He was in the
Edgefield, SC area in 1870. I've tried searching the census via Ancestry.com,
but the name never shows up.
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> thanks
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> Carl Steen
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