Carl Webb: Yes Apis Cerana was looked at and much much more. Here are early refereces to read I wrote concerning small cell, and how to's relative to varroa, small cell, and parasitic mites,pests, and predators and secondary diseases. Also much archives of old on how things came about..... http://www.beesource.com/pov/lusby/abjnov1989.htm http://www.beesource.com/pov/lusby/apiacta1992.htm http://www.beesource.com/pov/lusby/apiacta1995.htm http://www.beesource.com/pov/lusby/abjdec1997.htm http://www.beesource.com/pov/lusby/lusbyjun1997.htm http://www.beesource.com/pov/lusby/ (this is for whole index to the Saga- Way Back to Biological Beekeeping, plus archives, etc, etc. Dee A. Lusby ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping **************************************************** * General Information About BEE-L is available at: * * http://www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l/default.htm * ****************************************************