Back to ccd 
Its too bad noone else wishes to 'come out of the closet' 
I surely can't be the only one on this BBS with ccd? 
 
I wasn't going to write again, a conversation with  
yourself is not very fruitful,  but--- 
 
After watching the ccd (deadout) boxes for some 
time I can say with 100% assurence 
A) I really truely had/have ccd 
B) It is infectious, NOT caused by poison 
(likely a virus that I will call X) 
 
The effect of ccd boxes on ants is striking 
Not only is it a 100% test for ccd (no ants within) but 
leave the box there for 1 month, and watch the ant colony 
dwindle and dissapear, even tho they avoid the 
ccd box there must be some contact 
Ants 100' away do not seem to be effected 
Perhaps ants are even more susceptable to X?? 
Maybe someone wants to make big $$$$ 
with a viral insecticide? 
Very definatly NOT A GOOD IDEA 
 
I'll go out on a limb: 
the study of ants infected with X will lead 
to breakthru --- 2 or 3 years from now 
Of course we need something NOW 
 
Vitamin C is somewhat usful, but NOT a cure 
(depending on rigor 20 to 40 (out of 100)) 
Another indication that it is a virus 
As always (for C) LOTS & OFTEN 
This is a problem with full sized hives 
Fortunatly they are not heavy !?! 
 
I continue to see the symptoms I described earlier 
Hell what's the use, you won't believe me until 
it happens to you & it will 
 
I'll finish the tale of the RQ hive 
A day before the last of RQGD brood was due 
to emerge  all the pupae were gone, 
replaced by pollen.  AFAICT all (100%)  
of RQGD brood died. 
The Aussie replacement seemed to have no problems, 
no brood mortality, no sign of infected comb ect 
This was the point I started dosing with C so ?? 
(didn't want to waste my $20) 
 
I still havn't found a source of acetic acid, 
I would have spent $100 in a heartbeat 
 
dave 

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