In Arkansas, the SHPO still requires black & white photos and color
slides because it is in the "State Plan".  They have told us that the
NPS "REQUIRES" it for all documentation of historic structures.  As
far as I can tell, there is only one photo procerssor in the state (in
Little Rock) that still process black and white film and that is where
we had to send it.  This is for a site with standing structures, most
of which are less than 50 years old.

Can't view our slides since the bulb is burnt out in the projector.
(Well actually, we can.  We just hold them between our fingers and
hold them up to the pretty government florescent lights.)  Nobody in
town carries them anymore and the Feds won't let us buy on eBay.

:-(


On 10/1/07, Vergil E. Noble <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Two years ago the NPS expanded its photo policy relating to National
> Register nominations so that they will now accept digital images that meet
> 75-year permanance standards on paper, inks, etc:
> http://www.nps.gov/history/nr/policyexpansion.htm An electronic file is
> required for each digitally generated print submitted, and those also must
> meet exacting specifications on file format, image size, etc. So maybe
> there is reason to hope that state and tribal historic preservation offices
> will increasingly face practical reality and expand their policies for
> archaeological site recordation, as well.
>
>
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>
>
>                      "Lyle E.
>                      Browning"                To:       [log in to unmask]
>                      <[log in to unmask]        cc:       (bcc: Vergil Noble/MWAC/NPS)
>                      ET>                      Subject:  Re: B&W prints/negatives
>                      Sent by:
>                      HISTORICAL
>                      ARCHAEOLOGY
>                      <[log in to unmask]
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>                      10/01/2007 03:15
>                      PM AST
>                      Please respond to
>                      HISTORICAL
>                      ARCHAEOLOGY
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>
> We're all in a state of transition (and probably confusion) in the
> transfer from film (which is not immutable, it just takes longer) to
> digital. Floppies and 3.5" diskettes are now as available as buggy
> whips. CD's, DVD's, whatever are a transitory technology. Where it
> appears to be headed is massive servers with multiple backups that
> will have the images for online use. The advantage is that they are
> in effect originals.
>
> States with very firm, as in set in cement, policies about prints for
> archives had an end-run of some CRM firms handing them B&W prints on
> photo paper from high-res inkjet printers using archival quality
> black inks and being accepted because they looked enough like the
> stipulated type. Those same states seem now to be going to mass
> storage of digital, thankfully.
>
> The technology is there. The archival mindset needs to fully come to
> grips with it and work within that framework.
>
> Lyle Browning
>
>
> On Oct 1, 2007, at 2:59 PM, Carol Serr wrote:
>
> >  But Meli's point is...her state wants (requires?) negatives...not
> > (just) prints.  There are no negatives of digital images.
> > We cant even trust that these digital images will preserve when stored
> > on CDs...since those only have a limited life...or so I understand.
> > But, NO need to rehash all that on this forum.  I think it was
> > throughly
> > done last yr some time.
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> >> Behalf Of Richard W. Galloway
> >> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 11:25 AM
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: Metric Graph Paper - & other supplies
> >>
> >> Another option is to convert a copy of your digital photograph
> >> to B&W and print that on photo paper. The state will never
> >> know the difference and there is no need to find a lab that
> >> still does B&W processing.
> >>
> >> Richard W. Galloway
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Meli Diamanti" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:48 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Metric Graph Paper - & other supplies
> >>
> >>
> >>> Another item:  I may have to end up looking for photographic
> >> paper for
> >>> black/white photo printing soon.  The local camera shop says
> >> they can't
> >>> get it any more.  And our state seems to balk at the transition to
> >>> digital.  So I take digital images to use, and black/white
> >> for the record.
> >>> I may just have the black/white film developed and not
> >> bother trying to
> >>> print them any more.  That way, the state can still archive
> >> the negatives.
> >>> Meli Diamanti
> >>
>


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