Hi All,

I am looking for any job descriptions for archaeologists at public projects who also have public programming responsibilities. If you have a long-term public site with staff who both deliver programming and work in excavation/research, and can share the job descriptions for those, please forward them to me off list at [log in to unmask] thank you!

Tonia Deetz Rock
Historic Jamestowne


-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Thompson <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tue, 21 Aug 2007 2:57 pm
Subject: Re: HISTARCH Digest - 19 Aug 2007 to 20 Aug 2007 (#2007-20)



I've never recovered a phonograph record in an excavation, but it seems 
plausible that such a discovery could be made. Depending on how much information 
you have (from say a fragmentary label) your online reference for recordings of 
rural music would be:
Ceolas: Fiddler's Companion (Andrew Kunz)
http://www.ceolas.org/tunes/fc/
That source provides the following citation:

"According to Bronner (1987), "Rubber Dolly" was first collected as a 
Anglo-American children's game with the following words or variants (which may 
have come from a music-hall song of the 1890's):
***
My Mommy told me, she's going to buy a rubber dolly,
If I was good, So don't you till her I kissed a feller/soldier
Or she won't buy me a rubber dolly.
***
Bronner also says the tune has a similarity to an older British Isles melody 
called "Lord Alexander's Reel/Hornpipe, though he must have consulted other 
versions of the melody for his sources' version is somewhat obscure. It has been 
a favorite Texas or western swing piece in the 1930's and 40's, and has also 
been collected in the northeast (BRONNER, SIMON J. Old-Time Music Makers of New 
York State. Syracuse University Press, Syracuse, N.Y. 1987)."

Kunz notes the tune is essentially the same as "Back Up and Push", a melody 
popular with Old Time and Bluegrass fiddlers.

The standard paper reference for recordings of the same style of music is:

Russell, Tony
2004  Country Music Records, A Discography, 1921--1924. Oxford University Press.

The earliest commercial recording of Rubber Dolly found in there is by Perry 
Bechtel, a popular guitarist and banjoist. It was made in 1931 and issued by 
Columbia records (78 rpm), Co 2622-D. It also lists several other recordings up 
to 1940.


Of course there are separate discographies for Blues, Gospel, Classical and 
other music categories.

Probably more than you cared to know about Rubber Dolly, but maybe shows the the 
potential of phonograph records as artifacts that might indicate dates, ethnic 
association, economic status, etc. If you ever find one!

Tim T.

> 
> Date:    Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:33:35 -0700
> From:    MORGAN A RIEDER 
> Subject: Re: rubber items on Archaeoseek Artifact ID Help group page
> 
> "My momma told me if I was goody
> That she would buy me a rubber dolly
> My auntie told her I kissed a soldier
> Now she won't buy me that rubber dolly..."
> 
> As I recall, it's World War I vintage but I remember it was still =
> current in the 1950s.
> Has all this stuff just disappeared?
>   ----- Original Message -----=20
>   From: geoff carver=20
>   To: [log in to unmask]
>   Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 2:01 AM
>   Subject: Re: rubber items on Archaeoseek Artifact ID Help group page
> 
> 
>   some of us - alas - don't know the song...
>   ----- Original Message -----=20
>   From: "MORGAN A RIEDER" Help group page
> 
> 
>   "My momma told me if I was goody
>   That she would buy me a rubber dolly..."
>   If you remember the song, it's al downhill from there.
> 


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