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It is, however, frustrating to return from an extended time away from the desk to find a huge pile of emails on the same topic that's been done to death.
I've often thought that this list should be split into "practical stuff (where do I find a widget? anyone have suggestions on widget programs?)" and "philosophical/theoretical stuff."
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From: Informal Science Education Network
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of martin weiss
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 2:11 PM
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Subject: Re: Evolution, Creation, can we please move on?
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Don;
With all respect for your opinion the is the Delete button on
your keyboard and the discussion has been clearly labeled so there is
no reason for you to read any of this.
Cheers,
Martin
>
>
>Popeye the Sailor used to say "enough is too much". Please create
>an evolution vs. creation list-serve or a chat group, but please go
>away.
>
>Don Stidsen...MIT Museum
>
>
>On Jan 11, 2007, at 12:38 PM, Anna Grace wrote:
>
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>>OK, I have to throw my hat into the ring at this point. This has
>>been a fascinating discussion. Thank you, Mac , for sharing the
>>views of St. Thomas Aquinas. I agree with him wholeheartedly.
>>
>>Science and religion are different, like apples and oranges.
>>Religion is
>>based on belief (faith) and science is based on evidence. While they both
>>go about answering the same questions, they do it in a very different way.
>>
>>While I personally don't believe in God, that doesn't mean He/She/They don't
>>exist. It just hasn't been scientifically proven. There is no scientific
>>evidence. Will there ever be? I have no idea. Right now, the
>>question of the existence of God belongs only in the realm of religion and
>>faith. A scientist can do science (look for evidence) and believe
>>in God at the
>>same time. They are not mutually exclusive.
>>
>>Years ago when I taught 8th grade science, I had a student say to me, "I
>>don't belleve in dinosaurs." And I said, "That's OK, you don't have to, but
>>in science class we're going to learn about the evidence for their
>>existence."
>>
>>People are going to believe what they want to believe. Beliefs are very
>>hard to change. Our role as science educators is twofold: to present the
>>scientific evidence for theories like evolution and let people decide for
>>themselves what they want to believe AND to point out that theories like ID
>>and creationism are not based on scientific evidence and therefore fall into
>>the realm of religion (theology, philosophy, mythology, whatever
>>you want to call it)
>>and not science.
>>
>>Anna
>>
>>On Jan 10, 2007, at 8:31 AM, WILLIAM M. SUDDUTH wrote:
>>
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>>>This is a very old problem. St Thomas Aquinas sought to reconcile science
>>>with religion by dividing it into two realms that could not contradict
>>>each other (reason and revelation). To Aquinas God was a matter of faith
>>>and not of proof. Moreover, he thought to be able to scientifically
>>>prove God would destroy the beauty and value of faith. After all if you
>>>can prove it scientifically, then what's the point of believing?
>>>
>>>Dr. Mac Sudduth
>>>Coordinator of Science Grants
>>>Premier DeKalb County Schools
>>>Department of Research and Evaluation
>>>3770 N. Decatur Road
>>>Decatur, Georgia 30032-1099
>>>678-676-0675
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>>Anna Grace
>>Exhibit Coordinator
>>
>>Explorit Science Center
>>2801 2nd Street (Main Public Site)
>>3141 5th Street (Mace Park Branch)
>>P.O. Box 1288 (mail address)
>>Davis, CA 95617
>>530.756.0191
>>fax 530.756.1227
>>http://www.explorit.org
>>
>>We've expanded! Explorit's public exhibit gallery has moved to our
>>new site along I-80 which opened on September 23 at 2801 2nd St..
>>Learn more about our Expanding the Explorit Experience project and
>>on-going capital campaign by visiting
>>http://www.explorit.org/expansion/index.html
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