So a week later and its been odd... but enlightening 
I hope I'm not writing to /dev/null, I'll bite my tongue instead of 
responders 
 
The 5 nucs slowly recover, I'm not sure how much larval mortality 
but It seems the Q is doing more  "back filling" than she should? 
I think there should be 5% more sealed, otherwise looks normal 
 
The Red Q hive lives up to its karma, very unusual 
RQ. buckfast, dead 3.5y, last winter 
RQD main contributor 6 shallow(5.5") w/ bees 
RQGD raised this spring, dead afternoon 12may 
That was from 1 frame added, after I was sure of my oopsie 
I added 2 more w/ larvae (&sealed)& bees 13 may,(didn't think I could buy 
Q) 
 
RQGD from first observation had no larvae 3d or older 
They must have died and been cleaaned out,I never saw anything older than 
2d 
 
This changed on 16may, down from 3 frames to 1/4 frame, 1 side, ~300 (12 
sq"), 
the last 3% of this young Q's brood, about 6h worth of laying 
They are still there  now 23may, a furthur 50% mortality, 150 flat caps 
capped sometime after 1pm 21may (I'd love to incubate this frame in 12d, 
little $ for equipment). The larvae were 1d slow and 1d too small 
The bees thought they were OK larvae(mistakenly), made 1 QC 17,18,19th, 2 
on 20 & 21st !!! 
desperation? thats a 6d larvae!! 
They did pick small, runty larvae, 2d undersize.   
About 6 QC on imported frame, looked OK 
The royal jelly tasted bland, not sharp at all 
The imported frames did have mortality,  20,25 & 50% 
 
If larval mortality was only from starvation soon after 13may larvae would 
have lived, there would 1 or more frame sealed instead of <1/10,  
and as well little imported mortality. The 50% was most central 
 
In reality the infected nurses had to move on,  move aside 
(the imported nurses must have been not very infected, RQD is a B+ hive) 
 
This suggests that if a lavae's first feed is infected, its fate is sealed 
It also suggests that adult to adult, lacking vectors,is not very 
infective 
 
I wonder& worry about the comb, should I get it out, & sterilized? S is no 
fun. 
How long does the virus live? 
I'm not sure if I'm seeing comb aversion??? or more likly weak cluster 
 
I'll certainly watch brood on die-off comb, but I may have 
answered myself   >there should be 5% more sealed 
I should be passing the frames past a camcorder for real #'s 
 
Some idle thoughts 
 
Has anyone popped a very recent  CCD w/ brood into an incubator? 
(before brood is chilled) It would be interesting & cheap 
 
re ccd math: right as far as it goes (+ loss,  <25% ccd) 
but an unasked question is: how many have been exposed? 
Clearly not 100%, maybe 30%? 
 
If you controll both mites well, all hives, you might have a good chance 
to avoid the worst effects 
After all most virus pandemics last 2-3y, then fade into the background 
 
There should be a computer prog, import jpg, count cells brood & type, 
parallax would be a problem, import mov? 
 
dave 
 
 
 
 
 

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