The interesting thing about the popular vote in Illinois, is that six out
of the seven regional "wonders" were recreational (or scenic) places (state
parks, lakes, river confluences, etc.). Only the spectular Baha'i temple
drew votes for its architectural qualities. Wrigley Field is also
architecturally interesting, and as one of the few remaining classic
baseball stadiums it is a historically significant structure, but I suspect
that it's popularity among avid Cubs fans has more to do with devotion to
the team it hosts than the venue itself. The old place just hasn't been
the same since they puts lights on it for night games.
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Although not a Huskers fan myself, being an Arizona alum (Bear Down,
Wildcats!), I'd say that the Huskers stadium has significant functions for
social integration and participation in supracommunity ritual, including
initiation, mentoring, feasting, and partaking in both individual and
communal altered states of consciousness, that serve to create and maintain
the identities of intra-societal groups (dare one say sodalities?).
Jeffrey L. Boyer, RPA
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The Illinois Tourism Bueau did just such a thing this year, specifically to
promote tourism at lesser known sites across the state.
http://www.enjoyillinois.com/sevenwonders/
http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2007/05/01/news/doc4635f6fca95b7927717601.txt
My personal favorite, the White Squirrels of Olney, Illinois, didn't make
the southern region cut. More of a natural resource, anyway, though one
could make a case for them being a part of the modified cultural landscape.
http://www.ci.olney.il.us/Visitors/WhiteSquirrel.htm
And by the way, if a vote were taken in Nebraska the runaway winner would
have to be the stadium (some say "shrine") where the Huskers play, though
Carhenge might come closer to our definition of a cultural site
http://www.carhenge.com/.
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Jeffrey,
The insanity of this for me is that there are thousands of very important
sites throughout the world. I could think of seven wonders just in New
Mexico of the top of my head, and I would have a hard time choosing. I
think if each state or country had some kind of similar voting for just
their country or area, it would do a lot to raise the awareness of
archaeology and historical resources in our back yard. It seems a
no-brainer for SHPOs and the voting public to come up with the seven
wonders of New Mexico, or say Nebraska. I have no idea what the seven
wonders of Nebraska would look like, but I am sure people living there
would. Something like that could promote tourism and awareness and
preservation.
Victor Gibbs, RPA
Prinicpal Investigator
Zia Engineering and Environmental Consultants, LLC
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Poo. What made the original "deciders" experts about the old list? Did they
fork over money for conservation of the hanging gardens? Why should the
world's peoples not get to decide on which sites they think are
spectacular? Just because there is a sort of global democracy involved in
voting does not mean that countries without spectacular sites are being
discriminated against. How friggin' politically correct do we have to be?
The quibbling by UNESCO reminds me of a stream of comments on hist-arch
about how archaeology is presented by movies and TV shows. Some folks
complained about the obvious and frequent inaccuracies. Other argued that
anything that gets the public talking about archaeology gives us openings
to engage the public notions and perhaps to correct them when need be.
Jeffrey L. Boyer, RPA
Project Director
Office of Archaeological Studies, Museum of New Mexico
mail: P.O. Box 2087, Santa Fe, New Mexico 87504
physical: 407 Galisteo Street, Suite B-100, Santa Fe, New Mexico 87501
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"It might look a bit messy now, but just you come back in 500 years time."
--Terry Pratchett
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democracy & popularity contests vs. the experts:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/6272956.stm
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