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Martin...You're absolutely right. Please carry on. I'm sure my
prayers will be answered eventually.
Don
On Jan 11, 2007, at 2:10 PM, martin weiss wrote:
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> Don;
>
> With all respect for your opinion the is the Delete button on your
> keyboard and the discussion has been clearly labeled so there is no
> reason for you to read any of this.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Martin
>
>
>>
>>
>> Popeye the Sailor used to say "enough is too much". Please create
>> an evolution vs. creation list-serve or a chat group, but please
>> go away.
>>
>> Don Stidsen...MIT Museum
>>
>>
>> On Jan 11, 2007, at 12:38 PM, Anna Grace wrote:
>>
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>>> OK, I have to throw my hat into the ring at this point. This has
>>> been a fascinating discussion. Thank you, Mac , for sharing the
>>> views of St. Thomas Aquinas. I agree with him wholeheartedly.
>>>
>>> Science and religion are different, like apples and oranges.
>>> Religion is
>>> based on belief (faith) and science is based on evidence. While
>>> they both
>>> go about answering the same questions, they do it in a very
>>> different way.
>>>
>>> While I personally don't believe in God, that doesn't mean He/She/
>>> They don't
>>> exist. It just hasn't been scientifically proven. There is no
>>> scientific
>>> evidence. Will there ever be? I have no idea. Right now, the
>>> question of the existence of God belongs only in the realm of
>>> religion and
>>> faith. A scientist can do science (look for evidence) and
>>> believe in God at the
>>> same time. They are not mutually exclusive.
>>>
>>> Years ago when I taught 8th grade science, I had a student say to
>>> me, "I
>>> don't belleve in dinosaurs." And I said, "That's OK, you don't
>>> have to, but
>>> in science class we're going to learn about the evidence for their
>>> existence."
>>>
>>> People are going to believe what they want to believe. Beliefs
>>> are very
>>> hard to change. Our role as science educators is twofold: to
>>> present the
>>> scientific evidence for theories like evolution and let people
>>> decide for
>>> themselves what they want to believe AND to point out that
>>> theories like ID
>>> and creationism are not based on scientific evidence and
>>> therefore fall into
>>> the realm of religion (theology, philosophy, mythology, whatever
>>> you want to call it)
>>> and not science.
>>>
>>> Anna
>>>
>>> On Jan 10, 2007, at 8:31 AM, WILLIAM M. SUDDUTH wrote:
>>>
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>>>> This is a very old problem. St Thomas Aquinas sought to
>>>> reconcile science
>>>> with religion by dividing it into two realms that could not
>>>> contradict
>>>> each other (reason and revelation). To Aquinas God was a matter
>>>> of faith
>>>> and not of proof. Moreover, he thought to be able to
>>>> scientifically
>>>> prove God would destroy the beauty and value of faith. After
>>>> all if you
>>>> can prove it scientifically, then what's the point of believing?
>>>>
>>>> Dr. Mac Sudduth
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