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1. A "what is that" question (7)
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:28:05 -0600
From: "K. Kris Hirst" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: A "what is that" question
Hi guys!
I'm a long time lurker, but haven't posted in a very very long time.
Somebody posted on my bulletin board some pictures of a delftware
(reproduction probably) ceramic vessel with a configuration I've never seen.
Could somebody take a look and see what they think?
http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?msg=7127.3&nav=messages&webtag=ab-a
rchaeology
The poster describes it as "It has a lid, a bottom that is not quite a
plate, not quite a bowl, and resting in the bottom is a disk, with a hole in
the middle of it" and I guess, that's pretty good. There are pictures to be
seen, but I just don't recognize it at all.
Thanks,
Kris
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:44:48 EST
From: Robert Hunter <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: A "what is that" question
From the extremely poor images, this seems to be a mid-19th century
Staffordshire transfer-printed covered fish strainer (or other meat) dish.
Whiteware certainly not delft. 1840-60?
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:50:26 -0800
From: Michelle Terrell <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: A "what is that" question
Hi all, Eve here,=A0it=A0is a butter keeper, the disk with the hole allowed=
the moisture to drain off the churned butter.=A0 They=A0could=A0also be us=
ed for cheese, and=A0I saw someone using the bottom parts as a soap dish on=
ce.=A0=20 =A0 Best =A0 Eve =A0
--- On Thu, 11/20/08, K. Kris Hirst <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: K. Kris Hirst <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: A "what is that" question
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 10:28 AM
Hi guys!=20
I'm a long time lurker, but haven't posted in a very very long time.
Somebody posted on my bulletin board some pictures of a delftware
(reproduction probably) ceramic vessel with a configuration I've never seen.
Could somebody take a look and see what they think?=20
http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?msg=3D7127.3&nav=3Dmessages&webtag=
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The poster describes it as "It has a lid, a bottom that is not quite a
plate, not quite a bowl, and resting in the bottom is a disk, with a hole i=
n the middle of it" and I guess, that's pretty good. There are pictures to
be seen, but I just don't recognize it at all. =20
Thanks,=20
Kris
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:51:07 -0600
From: "David M. Ernest" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: A "what is that" question
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:25:59 -0300
From: Daniel Schavelzon <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: A "what is that" question
Hi,
For us, here in the south of the continent, is simple: we used that for a
kind of european dessert called in french and spanish "Flan", something lik
a ropund Cream-caramel, with a hole in the center. You remove the "flan"
from the dish spported by the disk, and latter put on and cover.
Could be?
Daniel
----- Original Message -----
From: "K. Kris Hirst" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 1:28 PM
Subject: A "what is that" question
> Hi guys!
>
> I'm a long time lurker, but haven't posted in a very very long time.
> Somebody posted on my bulletin board some pictures of a delftware
> (reproduction probably) ceramic vessel with a configuration I've never
seen.
> Could somebody take a look and see what they think?
>
>
>
http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?msg=7127.3&nav=messages&webtag=ab-a
> rchaeology
>
> The poster describes it as "It has a lid, a bottom that is not quite a
> plate, not quite a bowl, and resting in the bottom is a disk, with a hole
in
> the middle of it" and I guess, that's pretty good. There are pictures to
be
> seen, but I just don't recognize it at all.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kris
>
>
> K. Kris Hirst
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> About.com
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> www.About.com
> Become an About.com Guide: beaguide.about.com
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>
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:10:31 -0600
From: Bob Skiles <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: A "what is that" question
The piece in the bottom of the server is called a "drainer" and you can see
numerous examples here (even ones by Ridgway):
http://www.blueandwhite.com/museum.asp?ca=K
----- Original Message -----
From: "K. Kris Hirst" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:28 AM
Subject: A "what is that" question
> Hi guys!
>
> I'm a long time lurker, but haven't posted in a very very long time.
> Somebody posted on my bulletin board some pictures of a delftware
> (reproduction probably) ceramic vessel with a configuration I've never
> seen.
> Could somebody take a look and see what they think?
>
>
>
http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?msg=7127.3&nav=messages&webtag=ab-a
> rchaeology
>
> The poster describes it as "It has a lid, a bottom that is not quite a
> plate, not quite a bowl, and resting in the bottom is a disk, with a hole
> in
> the middle of it" and I guess, that's pretty good. There are pictures to
> be
> seen, but I just don't recognize it at all.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kris
>
>
> K. Kris Hirst
> Guide to Archaeology
> About.com
> archaeology.about.com
> www.About.com
> Become an About.com Guide: beaguide.about.com
> About.com is part of the New York Times Company
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Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 12:36:27 -0600
From: Bob Skiles <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: A "what is that" question
Adaptive use of a drainer for a soap dish isn't too weird. Although Kris'
example was intended for draining foods (butter being perhaps the most
common usage), there were soap dishes produced during the Victorian era with
their own drainers ... an excellent flow blue example is here:
http://www.rubylane.com/shops/glebebellsporcelain/item/2004-663
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From: "Michelle Terrell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: A "what is that" question
Hi all, Eve here, it is a butter keeper, the disk with the hole allowed the
moisture to drain off the churned butter. They could also be used for
cheese, and I saw someone using the bottom parts as a soap dish once.
Best
Eve
--- On Thu, 11/20/08, K. Kris Hirst <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: K. Kris Hirst <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: A "what is that" question
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 10:28 AM
Hi guys!
I'm a long time lurker, but haven't posted in a very very long time.
Somebody posted on my bulletin board some pictures of a delftware
(reproduction probably) ceramic vessel with a configuration I've never
seen.
Could somebody take a look and see what they think?
http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?msg=7127.3&nav=messages&webtag=ab-a
rchaeology
The poster describes it as "It has a lid, a bottom that is not quite a
plate, not quite a bowl, and resting in the bottom is a disk, with a hole in
the middle of it" and I guess, that's pretty good. There are pictures
to be
seen, but I just don't recognize it at all.
Thanks,
Kris
K. Kris Hirst
Guide to Archaeology
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