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As a friend of mine put it on a different list, anyone willing to get
their daly dose of philosophical and scientific insight from a
Starbuck's cup gets what they paid for... or what they deserve. You
choose, I guess.
And, unfortunately, as "liberal" as Starbuck's might be,
environmentally and globally friendly they are not. Their policies on
fair trade purchasing and support for sustainable coffee production
are not very good. But maybe that's like expecting Apple or Samsung
to lead the charge for "green" electronics.
And, if for no other reason, it's okay to leave Starbuck's for the
very simple reason that their coffee stinks and has never been as
good as Dunkin' Donuts.
On Jun 11, 2007, at 9:07 PM, Amanda Chesworth wrote:
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> Since posting the other day I've learned of a pro-evolution quote
> that adorns Starbucks take-out cups.
>
> "Evolution as described by Charles Darwin is a scientific theory,
> abundantly reconfirmed, explaining physical phenomena by physical
> causes. Intelligent design is a faith-based initiative in
> rhetorical argument. Should we teach ID in America's public
> schools? Yes, let's do - not as science, but alongside other
> spiritual beliefs, such as Islam, Zoroastrianism and the Hindu idea
> that Earth rests on Chukwa, the giant turtle."
>
> -- David Quammen, author, his books include _The Song of the Dodo_
> and _The Reluctant Mr. Darwin_
>
> That's a pretty good quote I suppose. Quammen is a great writer but
> the "..in rhetorical argument" will likely be lost on many.
>
> I suppose I can see their reasoning behind this new marketing ploy
> but I still don't think misrepresenting science is equal to
> offering a medium to share conversation. And presenting Wells as "a
> scientist, a biologist" when a quick google search will show just
> how credible a scientist he is, then presenting Quammen as an
> "author" in comparison is again, an inaccurate and misleading
> portrayal and works to sway people towards the former.
>
> I received a reply from Starbucks. I've included it at the end of
> this email. I don't think it's simply a matter of me personally
> disagreeing with the quote, as the letter states. They go on and on
> about their commitment to social responsibility and I see this as
> running contrary to that mission. More importantly though, many
> others have raised excellent reasons why I'd be better off making
> my own coffee so I've been practising the art of steaming milk.
> It's really quite difficult! My next feat will be to convince my
> sister to turn her back on Starbucks.. and that, I'm afraid, is
> about as likely a reality as ID.
>
> Amanda,
>
>
>
> Thanks for taking the time to write about "The Way I See It."
> Starbucks has long been dedicated to creating a unique "third
> place" between home and work. We also draw on the centuries-old
> tradition of the coffeehouse as a place to gather, share ideas, and
> enjoy delicious beverages. We see this program as an extension of
> the coffeehouse culture - a way to promote open, respectful
> conversation among a wide variety of individuals.
>
>
>
> Because this program is meant to encourage discussion and the
> exchange of ideas, your feedback is very important. In fact, it's a
> vital part of the conversation.
>
>
>
> I can understand that you do not appreciate it when speech that you
> disagree with appears in "The Way I See It." Our goal with "The Way
> I See It" is to create a balanced forum for discussion. To do this,
> we have invited authors representing a wide range of views. Not
> everybody we have invited has chosen to participate, but we will
> continue to make this program an inclusive one.
>
>
>
> We also invite all customers to contribute their own quotes for
> consideration, and to give us feedback in our "letters to the
> editor" section on the website. If you would like to contribute a
> quote for the cup, or to respond to a particular cup you've seen,
> please feel free to do so!
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Ryan J.
>
> Customer Relations Representative
>
> Starbucks Coffee Company
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