I stand corrected, I meant to say Vauban's teachings formed the basis of
fortification method and theory at the Napoleonic French military
engineering school at Metz where Dennis Hart Mahan was schooled. Largely
designed with crossing fields of fire, the Vauban-like designs in the US
from the Civil War period are a result of the antebellum students of Mahan
at West Point. Wasn't Vauban more influenced by German fortifications rather
than the Italian forms?

dan allen

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And, as his life dates (1633-1707) indicate below, Vauban died more than 60
years before Napoleon was born (1769-1821), so we can't really put him in
the "Napoleonic" era, though his influence certainly continued throughout
the 18th century and into the early 19th.

ven





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"Sébastien Le Prestre, Seigneur de Vauban and later Marquis de Vauban (May
15, 1633 - March 30, 1707), commonly referred to as Vauban, was a Marshal
of
France and the foremost military engineer of his age, famed for his skill
in
both designing fortifications and in breaking through them."
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vauban)

William Moss

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Vauban was a Napoleonic era military engineer who designed fortifications.
Before the American Civil War, variations of his work were being taught to
military engineers at West Point hence many Civil War era fortifications
are
variations of Vauban's designs taught primarily by Dennis Hart Mahan
(1802-1871), American soldier and educator.  Mahan graduated from West
Point
in 1824 and from that year until about 1871 spent his career in France
studying public works and institutions, Mahan taught civil and military
engineering at the Military Academy as the recognized American authority on
military engineering, Mahan wrote texts long considered as standard. As a
member of the academic board he also contributed greatly to the development
of education at West Point. His works include Complete Treatise on Field
Fortifications (1836), Summary on the Cause of Permanent Fortifications and
of the Attack and Defense of Permanent Works (1850), and An Elementary
Course of Military Engineering (2 vol., 1866-67). He trained most Federal
and Confederate engineers.

dan allen
Cumberland Research Group, Inc.


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Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: Vauban Forts


> Would someone please define "Vauban"? I am familiar with Emanuel Raymond
> Lewis, 1979, Seacoast Fortifications of the United States; An
Introductory
> History, Leeward Publications, Annapolis, Maryland. The term Vauban was
not
> mentioned.
>
> Ron May
> Legacy 106, Inc.
=