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Well, Eric, not to say my individual experience constitutes evidence
that the masses want to time shift their radio experience, but I,
personally, hardly listen to live radio at all anymore (except for the
local college station--which I often listen to as a live-stream on the
computer!).
I get more interesting content in podcast form than I have time for.
It's free and takes practically no energy on my part. Since I control
the delivery--the valve so-to-speak--I don't have to get up and turn on
the radio at 7am on Saturday morning to hear "On the Media." (Oh!
Gratitude!) I listened to some of this week's program on Sunday and
the rest of it last night. And when I missed a segment because I was
down in the basement, I was able to rewind (to coin an anachronistic
phrase)! Woo Hoo!
The new media community are calling this kind of media "pull" media.
The consumers go out individually, find the media they want to consume,
and consume it at their own individual pace.
TV is the best example "push" style media. Consumer doesn't get a
choice. The media is pushed at us.
I think your disfavor with the MoMA tour may have to do with the
quality of the content, and with every computer-user and their mother
having the ability to podcast, the ratio of fantastic content to
mediocre is disparaging. Hopefully, better tools for sifting through
content will be developed.
Anyhow, I'm not the sort of fellow who gets worked up about new
technology and having more media faster, harder, louder, bigger,
all-consuming ARGHHHH!!! But my habits have changed almost
effortlessly in the transition from "pushed" to "pulled" media with
regards to this thing we used to call "radio."
Also, I almost never take the audio tour at a museum. I dig the
unmediated experience.
But, like I said, an Intelligent Design audio tour of a natural history
museum would be an education I don't think I could any other way (in
other words, I couldn't bear a living, breathing, human Intelligent
Design tour guide, but I am interested in what they have to say).
Jason
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On Jul 27, 2005, at 10:06 AM, Eric Siegel (optonline) wrote:
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> For the nearly 10 years that the Web has been widely used, there has
> always been an attempt to "push" information at people. From Spam to
> popups to podcasting, these push efforts have all proven to be a bust.
> Until I have any evidence that people *want* alternative tours to
> museums, or to time shift "car talk" to listen at their own
> convenience for that matter, I think this whole podcasting museum
> tours is hype. I listened to a clip of Lee Siegel's tour of MOMA (see
> Slate.com) , and I would rather listen to Glenn Lowry any day.
>
> The constant pushing of media at people is the next wave of media
> investment, from celphone video to podcasting. I think this is where
> my old fogey-ism begins...I don't *want* any more media, I have more
> than enough, thanks. One of the values of of the hands-off kinds of
> museums is that it offers a little contemplative time during which you
> are allowed, required, encouraged to formulate your own thoughts in a
> quiet relationship with the object. Kind of like being alone with a
> good book...uh oh, I see it now...real-time cliff notes of books that
> you listen to as you read.
>
> An interesting, if somewhat techno-utopian issue of Wired this month,
> tracing 10 years of the Internet. Kind of nostalgic for someone who
> ordered his first CD online from CD-NOW using telnet in 1995.
>
> Eric Siegel
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> On Jul 27, 2005, at 9:29 AM, martin weiss wrote:
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>> Jason;
>>
>> Even more "endless possibilities", use of cellphones to get tours:
>>
>> http://www.cio.com/archive/071505/et_article.html.
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>> People are recording their own ("unofficial") audio tours of
>>> museums, and publishing them on the internet as podcasts, for anyone
>>> to download.
>>>
>>> For instance:
>>> Go to MoMA with an alternative audio tour on your MP3 player:
>>> http://homepage.mac.com/dave7/ArtMobs/FileSharing52.html
>>>
>>> Wow! What a concept!
>>> The possibilities are endless.
>>>
>>> I think an intelligent design tour of a natural history museum would
>>> be very interesting.
>>>
>>
>> They are done. See my post yesterday Re: juxtapositions.
>>
>> Martin
>>
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>>> On Jul 26, 2005, at 10:02 AM, martin weiss wrote:
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>>>> Wayne;
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>>>> For a number of years since the opening of Prehistoric Journey at
>>>> Denver Museum of Nature and Science-and continuing to today, a
>>>> creationist has led tours of the exhibition lecturing his tours
>>>> about DMNS' incorrect interpretation of the fossil record (and
>>>> evolution) and the correctness of his creationist perspective.
>>>> Denver, a public institution, has been powerless to stop him and
>>>> have negotiated an agreement about his behavior while in the museum
>>>> with his tour.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect there are other ways that individuals and organizations
>>>> use us, and our exhibitions to promote their agendas, as egregious
>>>> as they maybe, which we are powerless to stop. They have a right to
>>>> their interpretation; they just cannot claim that we say what we
>>>> don't.
>>>>
>>>> Martin
>>>>
>>>>
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