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For the nearly 10 years that the Web has been widely used, there has
always been an attempt to "push" information at people. From Spam to
popups to podcasting, these push efforts have all proven to be a
bust. Until I have any evidence that people *want* alternative tours
to museums, or to time shift "car talk" to listen at their own
convenience for that matter, I think this whole podcasting museum
tours is hype. I listened to a clip of Lee Siegel's tour of MOMA
(see Slate.com) , and I would rather listen to Glenn Lowry any day.
The constant pushing of media at people is the next wave of media
investment, from celphone video to podcasting. I think this is where
my old fogey-ism begins...I don't *want* any more media, I have more
than enough, thanks. One of the values of of the hands-off kinds of
museums is that it offers a little contemplative time during which
you are allowed, required, encouraged to formulate your own thoughts
in a quiet relationship with the object. Kind of like being alone
with a good book...uh oh, I see it now...real-time cliff notes of
books that you listen to as you read.
An interesting, if somewhat techno-utopian issue of Wired this month,
tracing 10 years of the Internet. Kind of nostalgic for someone who
ordered his first CD online from CD-NOW using telnet in 1995.
Eric Siegel
Executive VP
Programs and Planning
NY Hall of Science
47-01 111th Street
Queens, NY 11368
www.nyscience.org
On Jul 27, 2005, at 9:29 AM, martin weiss wrote:
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> Jason;
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> Even more "endless possibilities", use of cellphones to get tours:
>
> http://www.cio.com/archive/071505/et_article.html.
>
> Martin
>
>
>> People are recording their own ("unofficial") audio tours of
>> museums, and publishing them on the internet as podcasts, for
>> anyone to download.
>>
>> For instance:
>> Go to MoMA with an alternative audio tour on your MP3 player:
>> http://homepage.mac.com/dave7/ArtMobs/FileSharing52.html
>>
>> Wow! What a concept!
>> The possibilities are endless.
>>
>> I think an intelligent design tour of a natural history museum
>> would be very interesting.
>>
>
> They are done. See my post yesterday Re: juxtapositions.
>
> Martin
>
>>
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>> jasonJayStevens
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>> On Jul 26, 2005, at 10:02 AM, martin weiss wrote:
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>>> Wayne;
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>>> For a number of years since the opening of Prehistoric Journey
>>> at Denver Museum of Nature and Science-and continuing to today, a
>>> creationist has led tours of the exhibition lecturing his tours
>>> about DMNS' incorrect interpretation of the fossil record (and
>>> evolution) and the correctness of his creationist perspective.
>>> Denver, a public institution, has been powerless to stop him and
>>> have negotiated an agreement about his behavior while in the
>>> museum with his tour.
>>>
>>> I suspect there are other ways that individuals and
>>> organizations use us, and our exhibitions to promote their
>>> agendas, as egregious as they maybe, which we are powerless to
>>> stop. They have a right to their interpretation; they just cannot
>>> claim that we say what we don't.
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>>
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