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We identify standard correlations as well. However, the language that we use
on our information emphasizes that our programs, "help teachers meet Oregon
and California State Standards in science education." We believe that it is
really the teacher who will provide the follow-through required with each
individual students to meet the standard. We believe our programs offer
assistance not possible in the traditional classroom, but that the
responsibility of meeting standards does rest on the teacher.

Chris

Chris Wallace Hostetler
Executive Director
ScienceWorks Hands-On Museum
1500 East Main
Ashland, Oregon 97520
541-482-6767 ext. 31
 
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From: Informal Science Education Network
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Subject: Re: Question about educator's guides and standards

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We list correlations with the California State standards on our brochures at
the request of teachers, who say they help make the case that a visit is
worthwhile. It's not the reason we'd choose to have them use, but it's a
reason that works. 

I've always struggled with how broadly it is ethical to stretch in saying a
program meets a standard. Does the program just need to touch on some part
of the standard? Should we be confident that a student will leave the
program with a strong understanding of the standard? I'm not sure there's
any one rule, but I'd like to hear how stringently others define "meeting a
standard". 


On 9/22/05 12:43 PM, "Mike Shanahan" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> ISEN-ASTC-L is a service of the Association of Science-Technology Centers
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> Aloha,
> 
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> 
> We're working on revisions to our educator's guide at Bishop Museum in
> Hawaii.  The guide will list all of our onsite programs for school
> groups.  It will also list our cultural outreach and science outreach
> programs to the schools.
> 
>  
> 
> Question: how much information do you provide in your education guides
> regarding content standards and benchmarks?  Do you provide a general
> guideline?  A specific benchmark and reference?  Something in between?
> 
>  
> 
> How much of this sort of information in provided in your general guide,
> and how much do you provide either through your web pages or through
> ancillary material (guides that are specific to each program, for
> example).
> 
>  
> 
> Reply separately or to the whole list if you would.
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Mike Shanahan
> 
> Education Director
> 
> Bishop Museum
> 
> 1525 Bernice Street, Honolulu HI 96817
> 
> Office: (808) 847-8235
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> FAX: (808) 847-8250
> 
> Cell/pager: (808) 386-1419
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> www.bishopmuseum.org
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Katherine Ziff
Manager of School and Community Programs
Bay Area Discovery Museum
557 McReynolds Road
Sausalito, CA 94965

(415) 339-3922

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