With respect to questioning Lloyd's assertion as to the likelihood that these colonies were in fact AHB's, in
spite of a lack of lab analysis:
Lloyd has contributed for quite some time to Bee-L, and his posts indicate the breadth and quality of his experience as a beekeeper.
Some of the hives in question were reported to be destroyed
The number of stings and the distance from the hive are not typical of "aggressive" non AHB colonies
 I think a greater indictment resulting from Lloyd's post was the fact that the beekeeper in question, who presumably killed off a few of his hives, did not send specimens for analysis.  If his treatment regimen for parasites is already beyond the scope of legally approved "standard practice" it's very unlikely he would have taken this responsible step.  Can any of us say that we don't know any beekeepers who selectively decline to adhiere to certain obligations, whether the logging of pesticide applications, or notifications to governement authorities of overwintering locations (the law here in New Jersey)?

The impact of AHB's on the non-commercial industry, particularly in the more populated areas of the Northeast, is potentially quite serious.  Even if the AHB problem only "commutes" into the area each Spring, the potential nature of swarms will change,  the public's perception of bees may nose dive in spite of many efforts by beekeepers to boost the image of the insect, and assuming the overwintering ability still prevents AHB's from setting up year round residence, beekeepers will have to monitor hives frequently.  Municipal prohibition against bees may increase, and insurance rates may also take a toll.

Curtis Crowell
Hightstown, NJ

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