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Yes, what you heard was frustration. I agree that hard data is
strong evidence, I just don't want strong anecdotal evidence thrown
out (by the way, loved the strategic capitalization...)
Beryl
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>No, really, Beryl, don't beat around the Bush... :P
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>I agree with your analysis. I just think that the more we are able to
>present thoughtful (empirical?) evidence of these phenomena, the better
>position we might be in to do something about it.
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>Bill
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>>I get a lot of anecdotal comments about this. Empirical or not, the
>>bottom line is, if the teachers can't come out because that is what
>>they have been told, there is a valuable lesson there. I have found
>>that some districts, ie the ones that typically do well on the
>>tests, continue to visit. Those that are in trouble, ie the ones
>>that do poorly on the tests, have come less and less. If you want
>>empirical studies, just look at the list of schools who come and
>>don't come, and note note the districts they represent, (which
>>frankly, has high correlation to economics). It's pretty damn sad
>>when the districts and kids who could really benefit from
>>inquiry-based experiences can't get it because they are busy being
>>taught how to respond to a test question so their school scores will
>>go up. That's not learning, that's propaganda.
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>Now would you like to know how I really feel???
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>Beryl
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