Thanks, and that's an interesting point that it could have been a book
illustration.........

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Babson" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: Request


I believe I have seen a reproduction of this painting, probably as an
illustration in a popular archaeology book.  I can't place it exactly,
however, and I was unable to turn it up (not even the eBay link) in a
Google search just now.  If I've seen it in a book, sometime within the
past 30 years, it was almost certainly a painting made for the book.  Up
to c. 10 years ago, when computer art and clip art became more common,
it was not at all unusual for publishers to commission a painting, or
have one produced by an in-house artist, for a book jacket, cover,
frontispiece, etc., as I'm sure some of our colleagues in publishing can
attest.  I agree--the date references on the painting are to 1969 and
1970, not to the 1800s.

D. Babson.


-----Original Message-----
From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Chris Pickerell
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:08 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Request

That's kind of what I thought also.......

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe B. Jones" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: Request


> I'd bet that those brushes with the chrome end-cap weren't available
until
> the early to mid-twentieth century, though don't know for sure
off-hand.
>
> Joe
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Benjamin Nance" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:52 AM
> Subject: Re: Request
>
>
> > According to the following link, spiral bound notebooks were first
> > marketed in 1924.
> > http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa121599a.htm
> >
> > Ben
> >
> >
> > Benjamin C. Nance
> > Historical Archaeologist
> > Tennessee Division of Archaeology
> > 1216 Foster Ave., Cole Bldg. #3
> > Nashville, Tennessee 37210
> > [log in to unmask]
> > (615) 741-1588  Ext. 21
> > Fax:  (615) 532-9942
> >
> >>>> [log in to unmask] 4/14/05 8:47:57 AM >>>
> >
> > Is there a known date for the introduction of spiral notebooks that
can
> > go
> > along with the pencil dating that William provided?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "James L. Murphy" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:34 AM
> > Subject: Re: Request
> >
> >
> >> Much more likely to have been painted by Dominic A. Staskiews, born
> > 1908
> > in
> >> Poland and died in Elyria, Ohio, in 1990.  Or possibly his son
> > Dominic,
> >> still living in Elyria, 300 Washington Ave Elyria, OH 44035-5166.
> > Not to
> >> mention the obvious clues you mention.  Certainly not 19th C.  And
I
> > notice
> >> that the painting is being sold from Celina, Ohio, a distance but
not
> > that
> >> far from Elyria in terms of estate sales.
> >>
> >> Jim
> >> (440) 323-2754
> >>
> >> At 08:35 AM 4/14/2005 -0400, Chris Pickerell wrote:
> >> >Dear list members,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >I have an request that may be of some interest to you.  While
> > searching
> > on
> >> >Ebay the other day I came across a painting depicting an
> > archaeological
> >> >scene with arrowheads, a deer (?) jaw bone, two quartz points and
a
> > piece
> > of
> >> >note paper showing the excavation.  The painting is purported by
> > the
> > seller
> >> >to have been executed during the 19th century, but clues in the
> > painting
> >> >itself lead me to believe that it is actually form the 20th
century.
> > For
> >> >example, the make of the brush and fact that the note paper
appears
> > to
> > have
> >> >been pulled from a spiral notebook would lead me to believe that
> > the
> >> >painting was executed in 1970 and not 1870.  When I pointed this
out
> > to
> > the
> >> >seller he told me that the piece was appraised as a 19th century
> >> >painting.....
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >If anyone wants to see the painting they can go to the link below
> > or
> > check
> >> >out item # 7314676911.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
>
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7314676911&rd=1&ssp
agen
a
> >
> > me=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >BTW, I am not the seller and will not be bidding!!!!!!!!!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >I hope I have not offended anyone by bringing this up, but I am
> > interested
> >> >in hearing your thoughts on this...let me know what you think.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Chris Pickerell