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Katherine,
	It's a great suggestion.  I don't know about anybody else, but I've
tried this approach.  It didn't work here.  The Native Americans here
thought it was a GREAT idea.  I wanted to educate our community on the
Miami's specifically.  I wanted to record someone doing constellation
stories in their own voices.  Nobody would do it.  They like the education
aspect - they just don't want to do it.  Very strange situation.  I even
went to an annual Pow Wow with native americans from all over the country.
Nothing!

	Interesting culture.

Lou Papai 
Public Programs Manager 
Science Central 
1950 N. Clinton St. 
Fort Wayne, IN  46805 
(260) 424-2400, ext. 442 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Katherine Paronto [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 11:42 AM
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Subject: Re: medicine wheels & astronomy- one last suggestion


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I have one more small suggestion...how about having a modern native 
person telling the story?  One of the major complaints of the Native 
American community is that they are always portrayed as they were a 
hundred years ago.  You could have the story teller roar up to the fire 
on his snowmobile or even better, have a few people around a regular 
kitchen table telling the story.

Katherine Patterson-Paronto


Peter Davis wrote:

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> Thank you very much for your responses. They were indeed very helpful 
> and pushed me further in a direction I was leaning towards anyway.
>
> I will most likely avoid bringing in medicine wheels as a major 
> element of the Native part of the Night Sky focus. It may be a good 
> opportunity to do a field trip and have a number of people listening 
> to a Native guide for a while.
>
> Right now, I envision a Sky Story Telling by a Native around a bonfire 
> (in the freezing Canadian winter night - doesn't that sound 
> appetizing?). And a similar (or maybe joint?) event  could be arranged 
> with telling the ancient Greek stories behind the constellations. I'd 
> be quite happy to leave these stories as a cultural, oral tradition 
> and not to try to squeeze any science into them. That can be done at a 
> different event.
>
> In any case, I very much look forward to working together with the 
> Natives in the area and I hope that this will work out.
>
> Cheers and a happy new year to everybody,
> Peter Davis
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