I'm 75-80% sure I've seen this rim treatment on Syracuse China plates
and saucers, probably more toward the end of your 1880-1930/40 period.
Syracuse China has been a major manufacturer of "hotel-wares"
(heavy-body, highly vitrified granite wares to porcelains), c. 1890 to
present, and they had some dominance of the railroad (dining car and
station-restaurant) market during the first half of the 20th century.

D. Babson.
 

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Subject: Hotelware w lines & band

January 16, 2006

 

Hi all,

 

I am sure everyone doing archaeology around 1880s to 1930s has at one
time or another run into the hotelware rim designs of handpainted "red
line - green band - red line", and/or its alter ego "green line - red
band - green line".  Somewhere I read that "everyone made these
patterns."

 

Most commonly here in San Diego County, I see the first version (the
green is light & bright) with marks by John Maddock & Sons, Ltd OR Wood
& Sons.  The Maddock version is pictured in Conroy, Barbara, Restaurant
China, Volume 2, Collector Books, 1999:255; Wood & Sons' version is
pictured on page 577 of the same book.  Also in that book, not
attributed to a manufacturer, is another "red - green - red", with a
very dark colored green, page 586.  In her other book (Volume 1, 1998)
is another like it on page 131.

 

In our sites Grindley Hotelware often sports the "green line - red band
- green line."

 

My current project is a dump from a hotel.  Please remember I am only
interested in the HANDPAINTED types.  (And don't spend hours looking;
I'm just curious!)  My questions are:

 

1.  What other manufacturers have you all seen with these treatments?

2.  Have you noticed if one version always seems to have an earthenware
body and the other is vitrified?

 

Thanks from (at the moment) sunny Chula Vista,

 

S. Walter