I DO have back marks, both Japanese and Bavarian. I've been trying to match
them to the itty bitty decal decorated rim sherds, with only a couple of
successes. I would love to connect more of them together AND figure out
where the unconnected bits originated.
I've already run into all the problems you've mentioned, and have already
checked extensively the internet. Spent a lot of money on second hand
collectors books to look at photos. Been to 3 antique malls and talked to
people who deal with porcelains.
My site was supposedly not used after 1927, but I have marks starting in the
1930s. As later sites become more significant the copying situation gets
more complicated. Although I posted my query about porcelain, which is the
most difficult for me to figure out, also from this assemblage are single
colored vessels of apparently Japanese origin in direct mimicry of Bauer and
similar California produced 1930s+ wares. This site is in Los Angeles
county.
No magical lights? No easy answers? Darn! Thanks though.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ariadne Moore" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: porcelain id
Susan,
I'm by no means an expert on porcelain identification, but I think it could
be quite tricky to identify Japanese vs. Bavarian without back-marks, which
it seems you don't have on your site. Unless the rim sherds are identifiable
as having a known motif that you can place to a reference, it could be
difficult, because the export markets mimic each other stylistically in
order to compete for the same business. To complicate matters, I think that
Noritake porcelain was frequently exported as blanks and decorated in the
U.S., etc. If you can identify the vessel form, I think certain
European-style teacups, for instance, are only produced in Japan after WWII,
which would make yours European.
As a quick reference to oriental porcelain, have you ever looked at the
website www.gotheborg.com <http://www.gotheborg.com> ? It's a collector's
site, but is pretty informative as a starting point.
Good luck!
--Ariadne.
On 8/29/05, Susan Walter <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Aug. 29, 2005
>
> Hi,
> I have a site dating into the 1930s, with a lot of porcelain. Much of it
> is small fragments with decal decoration. I have some Japanese, some
> Bavarian. I am crosseyed and nearly crazy from looking through Collector
and
> Schiffer books.
>
> Does anyone know of a way to differentiate Japanese from European produced
> porcelains? Or good references?
>
> To clarify my question, I am talking about small DECAL decorated RIM
> sherds of PORCELAIN.
>
> Thanks,
> S. Walter
>
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