I did send him a message earlier today as the evidence was
mounting.......hopefully, he will add a note to his listing. I have seen
it done before. BTW, I don't think $99 is bad for an original painting
regardless of its age and if my wife wasn't so against it.....I would be
bidding myself, even knowing the "real" age..........
> Well, what do we do? We seem to have a consensus that this painting is
> being misrepresented on eBay, and it already has a minimum bid, at
> $99.00. Bust the seller to eBay? They will kick him off their auction
> site, at least under his present e-mail address/ID.
>
> D. Babson.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Lauren Cook
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 4:37 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Request
>
> I'm with David on this one. Notebooks and the English System had
> certainly
> given way to forms and metric on professional excavations in the
> northeast
> by the late '70s, but overall, the whole set-up looks way too modern to
> be
> from the 1880s. I think someone just wants to make a killing on ebay.
>
> Lauren Cook
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of David
> Babson
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 12:46 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Request
>
>
> I believe I have seen a reproduction of this painting, probably as an
> illustration in a popular archaeology book. I can't place it exactly,
> however, and I was unable to turn it up (not even the eBay link) in a
> Google search just now. If I've seen it in a book, sometime within the
> past 30 years, it was almost certainly a painting made for the book. Up
> to c. 10 years ago, when computer art and clip art became more common,
> it was not at all unusual for publishers to commission a painting, or
> have one produced by an in-house artist, for a book jacket, cover,
> frontispiece, etc., as I'm sure some of our colleagues in publishing can
> attest. I agree--the date references on the painting are to 1969 and
> 1970, not to the 1800s.
>
> D. Babson.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Chris Pickerell
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 11:08 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Request
>
> That's kind of what I thought also.......
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe B. Jones" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 10:33 AM
> Subject: Re: Request
>
>
>> I'd bet that those brushes with the chrome end-cap weren't available
> until
>> the early to mid-twentieth century, though don't know for sure
> off-hand.
>>
>> Joe
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Benjamin Nance" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: Request
>>
>>
>> > According to the following link, spiral bound notebooks were first
>> > marketed in 1924.
>> > http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa121599a.htm
>> >
>> > Ben
>> >
>> >
>> > Benjamin C. Nance
>> > Historical Archaeologist
>> > Tennessee Division of Archaeology
>> > 1216 Foster Ave., Cole Bldg. #3
>> > Nashville, Tennessee 37210
>> > [log in to unmask]
>> > (615) 741-1588 Ext. 21
>> > Fax: (615) 532-9942
>> >
>> >>>> [log in to unmask] 4/14/05 8:47:57 AM >>>
>> >
>> > Is there a known date for the introduction of spiral notebooks that
> can
>> > go
>> > along with the pencil dating that William provided?
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "James L. Murphy" <[log in to unmask]>
>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 9:34 AM
>> > Subject: Re: Request
>> >
>> >
>> >> Much more likely to have been painted by Dominic A. Staskiews, born
>> > 1908
>> > in
>> >> Poland and died in Elyria, Ohio, in 1990. Or possibly his son
>> > Dominic,
>> >> still living in Elyria, 300 Washington Ave Elyria, OH 44035-5166.
>> > Not to
>> >> mention the obvious clues you mention. Certainly not 19th C. And
> I
>> > notice
>> >> that the painting is being sold from Celina, Ohio, a distance but
> not
>> > that
>> >> far from Elyria in terms of estate sales.
>> >>
>> >> Jim
>> >> (440) 323-2754
>> >>
>> >> At 08:35 AM 4/14/2005 -0400, Chris Pickerell wrote:
>> >> >Dear list members,
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >I have an request that may be of some interest to you. While
>> > searching
>> > on
>> >> >Ebay the other day I came across a painting depicting an
>> > archaeological
>> >> >scene with arrowheads, a deer (?) jaw bone, two quartz points and
> a
>> > piece
>> > of
>> >> >note paper showing the excavation. The painting is purported by
>> > the
>> > seller
>> >> >to have been executed during the 19th century, but clues in the
>> > painting
>> >> >itself lead me to believe that it is actually form the 20th
> century.
>> > For
>> >> >example, the make of the brush and fact that the note paper
> appears
>> > to
>> > have
>> >> >been pulled from a spiral notebook would lead me to believe that
>> > the
>> >> >painting was executed in 1970 and not 1870. When I pointed this
> out
>> > to
>> > the
>> >> >seller he told me that the piece was appraised as a 19th century
>> >> >painting.....
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >If anyone wants to see the painting they can go to the link below
>> > or
>> > check
>> >> >out item # 7314676911.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
>>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7314676911&rd=1&ssp
> agen
> a
>> >
>> > me=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >BTW, I am not the seller and will not be bidding!!!!!!!!!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >I hope I have not offended anyone by bringing this up, but I am
>> > interested
>> >> >in hearing your thoughts on this...let me know what you think.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Chris Pickerell
>
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