Susan:

I'd recommend you contact Priscilla Wegars, [log in to unmask], at the 
Asian American Comparative Collection, http://www.uidaho.edu/LS/AACC/, 
University of Idaho.

Robert


At 8/30/2005 08:36 AM, you wrote:
>I DO have back marks, both Japanese and Bavarian.  I've been trying to match
>them to the itty bitty decal decorated rim sherds, with only a couple of
>successes.  I would love to connect more of them together AND figure out
>where the unconnected bits originated.
>
>I've already run into all the problems you've mentioned, and have already
>checked extensively the internet.  Spent a lot of money on second hand
>collectors books to look at photos.  Been to 3 antique malls and talked to
>people who deal with porcelains.
>
>My site was supposedly not used after 1927, but I have marks starting in the
>1930s.  As later sites become more significant the copying situation gets
>more complicated.  Although I posted my query about porcelain, which is the
>most difficult for me to figure out, also from this assemblage are single
>colored vessels of apparently Japanese origin in direct mimicry of Bauer and
>similar California produced 1930s+ wares.  This site is in Los Angeles
>county.
>
>No magical lights?  No easy answers?  Darn!  Thanks though.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ariadne Moore" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 7:15 AM
>Subject: Re: porcelain id
>
>
>Susan,
>  I'm by no means an expert on porcelain identification, but I think it could
>be quite tricky to identify Japanese vs. Bavarian without back-marks, which
>it seems you don't have on your site. Unless the rim sherds are identifiable
>as having a known motif that you can place to a reference, it could be
>difficult, because the export markets mimic each other stylistically in
>order to compete for the same business. To complicate matters, I think that
>Noritake porcelain was frequently exported as blanks and decorated in the
>U.S., etc. If you can identify the vessel form, I think certain
>European-style teacups, for instance, are only produced in Japan after WWII,
>which would make yours European.
>  As a quick reference to oriental porcelain, have you ever looked at the
>website www.gotheborg.com <http://www.gotheborg.com> ? It's a collector's
>site, but is pretty informative as a starting point.
>  Good luck!
>  --Ariadne.
>
>  On 8/29/05, Susan Walter <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > Aug. 29, 2005
> >
> > Hi,
> > I have a site dating into the 1930s, with a lot of porcelain. Much of it
> > is small fragments with decal decoration. I have some Japanese, some
> > Bavarian. I am crosseyed and nearly crazy from looking through Collector
>and
> > Schiffer books.
> >
> > Does anyone know of a way to differentiate Japanese from European produced
> > porcelains? Or good references?
> >
> > To clarify my question, I am talking about small DECAL decorated RIM
> > sherds of PORCELAIN.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > S. Walter
> >