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Susan Walter <[log in to unmask]>
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HISTORICAL ARCHAEOLOGY <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:37:49 -0700
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Thanks, I already have.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Leavitt" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: porcelain id


> Susan:
>
> I'd recommend you contact Priscilla Wegars, [log in to unmask], at the
> Asian American Comparative Collection, http://www.uidaho.edu/LS/AACC/,
> University of Idaho.
>
> Robert
>
>
> At 8/30/2005 08:36 AM, you wrote:
> >I DO have back marks, both Japanese and Bavarian.  I've been trying to
match
> >them to the itty bitty decal decorated rim sherds, with only a couple of
> >successes.  I would love to connect more of them together AND figure out
> >where the unconnected bits originated.
> >
> >I've already run into all the problems you've mentioned, and have already
> >checked extensively the internet.  Spent a lot of money on second hand
> >collectors books to look at photos.  Been to 3 antique malls and talked
to
> >people who deal with porcelains.
> >
> >My site was supposedly not used after 1927, but I have marks starting in
the
> >1930s.  As later sites become more significant the copying situation gets
> >more complicated.  Although I posted my query about porcelain, which is
the
> >most difficult for me to figure out, also from this assemblage are single
> >colored vessels of apparently Japanese origin in direct mimicry of Bauer
and
> >similar California produced 1930s+ wares.  This site is in Los Angeles
> >county.
> >
> >No magical lights?  No easy answers?  Darn!  Thanks though.
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Ariadne Moore" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 7:15 AM
> >Subject: Re: porcelain id
> >
> >
> >Susan,
> >  I'm by no means an expert on porcelain identification, but I think it
could
> >be quite tricky to identify Japanese vs. Bavarian without back-marks,
which
> >it seems you don't have on your site. Unless the rim sherds are
identifiable
> >as having a known motif that you can place to a reference, it could be
> >difficult, because the export markets mimic each other stylistically in
> >order to compete for the same business. To complicate matters, I think
that
> >Noritake porcelain was frequently exported as blanks and decorated in the
> >U.S., etc. If you can identify the vessel form, I think certain
> >European-style teacups, for instance, are only produced in Japan after
WWII,
> >which would make yours European.
> >  As a quick reference to oriental porcelain, have you ever looked at the
> >website www.gotheborg.com <http://www.gotheborg.com> ? It's a collector's
> >site, but is pretty informative as a starting point.
> >  Good luck!
> >  --Ariadne.
> >
> >  On 8/29/05, Susan Walter <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Aug. 29, 2005
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > I have a site dating into the 1930s, with a lot of porcelain. Much of
it
> > > is small fragments with decal decoration. I have some Japanese, some
> > > Bavarian. I am crosseyed and nearly crazy from looking through
Collector
> >and
> > > Schiffer books.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know of a way to differentiate Japanese from European
produced
> > > porcelains? Or good references?
> > >
> > > To clarify my question, I am talking about small DECAL decorated RIM
> > > sherds of PORCELAIN.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > S. Walter
> > >

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